Capri Shell & Ford's input to Motorsport (among other things) - Page 2

Al Weyman · 9 Jan 2007, 15:13 (Ref:1810445)

No way, the small Block Chevy must be!

terence · 9 Jan 2007, 15:18 (Ref:1810447)

OK,OK,I give in,at least it stirred up some action,I,ll admit to the ownership of ,1] 2 MK1 2doorGT Cortinas,2] 1600e,with a pretty quick Hall&Fowler engine,it would beat an LC no problem.3]Mk 1 1300gt[thats what it said on the Bootlid]Escort

I,ve just had the missfortune of having to drive through Downham Market in Norfolk,and loe and behold,on a car lot there stood a rather nice MK3 Zodiac.

**Peter Mallett** · 9 Jan 2007, 16:39 (Ref:1810521)

Al,

Is a 5.7 engine a small block?

Also as with all the cars it had undergone a severe weight loss programme.

COLIN STUBBS · 9 Jan 2007, 16:40 (Ref:1810522)

terence last one of those i saw in your neck of the woods... http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder....diac_yates.jpg

Al Weyman · 9 Jan 2007, 17:19 (Ref:1810555)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Al,

Is a 5.7 engine a small block?

Also as with all the cars it had undergone a severe weight loss programme.

Yes, in fact it goes right up to the 400 ci (6.6) engine found in trucks, all small block chevy though and the design dates back to the 50's. Dunno why I like so much anyhow as they keep breaking on me, what you get familiar with I guess! I rebuilt a hot version Ford Mustang engine for a mate a while back that was pretty cool too.

johnh875 · 10 Jan 2007, 01:42 (Ref:1810899)

Al there have been an awful lot of FFord races run, a fair head start!

Not many Mk3 Capris out here at all, only private imports. They do look good though

**Peter Mallett** · 10 Jan 2007, 06:20 (Ref:1810986)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

Christ I did"nt expect this thread to go anywhere.Anyway I have found some pikey boy to come along with his truck and load it up ( I think for banger racing )!

Are you getting your drive tarmac'd too?

It was a bit of a coincidence that this kicked off but those of us "of an age" will recall a publication known as "Hot Car" magazine. The number of Fords in there far outstrripped any other mark either as engine supply to a special or as the donor car with a big for small engine swap. I guess the only engine to outgun any Ford product in the UK would have been the Rover V8 at the time!

That said look at the specialists that used Ford engines in their road cars.

TVR, AC (what about the Ruddspeed conversion?) and of course the Cobra and the Sunbeam Tiger but ultimately we got the De Tomaso Pantera.

terence · 10 Jan 2007, 08:26 (Ref:1811032)

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLIN STUBBS

terence last one of those i saw in your neck of the woods... www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/Saloons/zodiac_yates.jpg

Very good,This one is a road car,mind you ,armed with some tin snips and paint--------

**John Turner** · 10 Jan 2007, 09:11 (Ref:1811073)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

That said look at the specialists that used Ford engines in their road cars.

TVR, AC (what about the Ruddspeed conversion?) and of course the Cobra and the Sunbeam Tiger but ultimately we got the De Tomaso Pantera.

Yes, Reliant (Sabre/Scimitar Coupe/GTE), Gilbern (Genie/Invader), Marcos (V6), some of the Ginettas, Trident (V6 & V8), Britannia and Fairthorpe.

retro_msport · 10 Jan 2007, 10:13 (Ref:1811140)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

No way, the small Block Chevy must be!

Chevy F1 race wins ( please fill in the the number Al) = ......... wins
Ford Cosworth DVF = 155 wins.

Nascar wins ... 1949 >

Chevy = 599
Ford = 571

Combined stats ....

Chevy .. 599 + ? = 599+
Ford .... 579 + 155 = 734. (only includes F1 Ford wins up to 1982)

Top spectator sports from both sides of the pond... so its sorta fair ..

zefarelly · 10 Jan 2007, 14:33 (Ref:1811460)

BTCC (and predecessor) wins

Ford 219
vauxhall 101
honda 58
chevrolet 54
jaguar 51
bmw 46
renault 38
rover 33
nissan 25
seat 24

I think FOrd can sleep easy for another year or two !

**Peter Mallett** · 10 Jan 2007, 14:34 (Ref:1811461)

Does the Ford figure include Mazda too?

terence · 10 Jan 2007, 14:50 (Ref:1811475)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Does the Ford figure include Mazda too?

I think the point has been made,dont push it

**Peter Mallett** · 10 Jan 2007, 14:53 (Ref:1811479)

terence · 10 Jan 2007, 15:11 (Ref:1811496)

davyboy · 10 Jan 2007, 15:21 (Ref:1811502)

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Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Don't tell me, Dad wanted to call you Capri

Its the kind of name for a child that sounds better after a few beers doesn't it.

You know what, when I lived in Essex in the early 1990s... and drove a lowered 2.8i on the road... I was stopped by the police every 2-3 weeks ! It wasn't that they wanted a close-up look at Cologne's best either. The cops must have had some briefing about the stereotypical characters that drove Capris. It was a damn nuisance though.

terence · 10 Jan 2007, 15:25 (Ref:1811505)

It wasnt Light green with Black stripes was it ?

davyboy · 10 Jan 2007, 15:43 (Ref:1811525)

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Originally Posted by terence bower

It wasnt Light green with Black stripes was it ?

Caspian blue over silver

... I'm feeling an Alan Partridge moment coming on now :-)

zefarelly · 10 Jan 2007, 16:18 (Ref:1811551)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Does the Ford figure include Mazda too?

it says Ford not Fraud !

I wonder if a new Ford entered BTCC and woon if the result would add to their tally or go under Mazda or Volvo (depending on engine)

Anuauto · 10 Jan 2007, 16:27 (Ref:1811558)

NASCAR statistics don't tell the real story as "Chevy" is only listed if the body ran as a Chevy? All the GM runners would have actually had Chevy engines but only the odd Mercury would have had a Ford engine and not be listed as "Ford"? It's all the local US oval tracks, both "sanctioned" and "outlaw" that would put the small block Chevy into first place in the world?

Al Weyman · 10 Jan 2007, 18:53 (Ref:1811666)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anuauto

NASCAR statistics don't tell the real story as "Chevy" is only listed if the body ran as a Chevy? All the GM runners would have actually had Chevy engines but only the odd Mercury would have had a Ford engine and not be listed as "Ford"? It's all the local US oval tracks, both "sanctioned" and "outlaw" that would put the small block Chevy into first place in the world?

Thank you Anuauto you took the words out of my mouth I was going to mention all the Midgets and dirt cars etc etc not to mention Drag racers Formula 5000's and T70's.

**Peter Mallett** · 10 Jan 2007, 19:24 (Ref:1811687)

Oddly enough I was thinking today, what other cars ran Ford or Chevy engines and the T70 came to mind, followed by the Chevron. Of course I think I'd be correct in saying that the former with the Chevy engine had less success than the latter with Ford power based on classes.

The F5000 example is a good one though, an almost Chevy dominated class, with a few GAA powered interlopers.

This has become good thread.

zefarelly · 10 Jan 2007, 19:43 (Ref:1811699)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

This has become good thread.

indeed it has, it did threaten to get a bit Crapi for a while !

I think Ford Rules the roost in the UK, certainly no one can touch them for tin top success, they won virtually every race from 63-70

Al Weyman · 10 Jan 2007, 19:49 (Ref:1811707)

ANd Chevy rules the roost in the US

terence · 10 Jan 2007, 20:40 (Ref:1811743)

Yes it has become a good thread,I cant understand these people who stir things up though.

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