Old Vs New - Page 4

shhh · 15 Feb 2007, 20:36 (Ref:1842534)

yeah but where are all the big boys?? BRC is still the one they all want to compete in and win

Guffy · 15 Feb 2007, 21:01 (Ref:1842556)

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Originally Posted by shhh

yeah but where are all the big boys?? BRC is still the one they all want to compete in and win

Might be a different story if the ROS had British in its title, nothing sounds better than being a British champion

But i'm only guessing on that theory...!

chris cake · 15 Feb 2007, 21:44 (Ref:1842588)

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Originally Posted by leonidas

I don't want the thread to take a 'mine's bigger than your's' line but... I'm very impressed by what Chris, Peter and the open championship are doing. They've got a range of high profile sponsors, a tv deal, a dvd review, they produce good promotional material and a website that is updated almost daily. They've organised the first successful winter meeting for ages. That doesn't strike me as 'half arsed'...

Thanks for the very encouraging comments We (mostly Peter) work very hard
for our sport to bring new sponsors in and keep them !
All our sponsors are here for the long term and are looking forward to the future!

We also have a policy of information to competitors is paramount .

As for a comment from a fellow poster. RE half arsed we at least we have the guts and the BACKING to put on a event and which was very successful in entries and in spectators coming through the gate and it was said by a anther organisation in a motor sport paper recently that the weather and time of year was not good for an 40th anniversary meeting but that wasnt the case 70 cars and very good racing and will be on tv for 1 hour!

CHRIS...

TEAM LINGsCARS RALLYCROSSOPEN CHAMPIONSHIP

chris cake · 15 Feb 2007, 21:53 (Ref:1842595)

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Originally Posted by M.Lowe

Remember the Spaceframes that where going to be allowed to compete with the supercars/ div 1 cars they never took off did they?

Dont forget we have a specials class!

Thundersports · 15 Feb 2007, 22:06 (Ref:1842609)

Where is the quality?

chris cake · 15 Feb 2007, 22:09 (Ref:1842613)

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Originally Posted by Thundersports

Where is the quality?

What do you mean?

chris cake · 15 Feb 2007, 22:18 (Ref:1842624)

[QUOTE=Thundersports] As it stands at the moment we have one good series and one half arsed attempt which is diluting the competitors, sponsers, TV etc.

Yes you are very right in what you say !
WHEN ARE THE REGS OUT?????????????????//

Guffy · 15 Feb 2007, 22:24 (Ref:1842632)

[QUOTE=chris cake]

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Originally Posted by Thundersports

As it stands at the moment we have one good series and one half arsed attempt which is diluting the competitors, sponsers, TV etc.

Yes you are very right in what you say !
WHEN ARE THE REGS OUT?????????????????//

ooooh thats a low blow Chris

DCS · 15 Feb 2007, 22:31 (Ref:1842637)

I have just returned from my first WRC visit in Sweden. And I must say: newer machinery sucks! Those 34 mm restricted cars are slow! I thought the speed on the little staights for 45 mm restricted Rallycross cars has become less in the last 10 years... Well WRC = not quick at all! And they sound horrible too! Not that sweet ERC sound...

DCS · 15 Feb 2007, 22:38 (Ref:1842649)

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Originally Posted by Mad Mark Watson

[PHP]My view is that we need to field modern cars to make public recognise the vehicles we run

I think that's a bit crap because your Xsara for example is miles off a standard roadgoing Xsara. The only related item is it basic shell to start with.

Guffy · 15 Feb 2007, 22:47 (Ref:1842660)

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Originally Posted by DCS

I have just returned from my first WRC visit in Sweden. And I must say: newer machinery sucks! Those 34 mm restricted cars are slow!

Nowt to do it the rally being on Snow then...? which is a slower surface anyway..!

bigted · 15 Feb 2007, 22:58 (Ref:1842673)

I would like to point everyones attention to the third topic in this forum, read what it says and lets ALL grow up

banzooki · 16 Feb 2007, 00:23 (Ref:1842723)

Yes its time some people grow up and face facts!
good night LOL

Thundersports · 16 Feb 2007, 00:23 (Ref:1842724)

Chris Regs? I don't run a championship neither do I have any involvement with the BRDA or interest, i'm just a paying spectator and have been for the past 20 years of rallycross.
However I went to the "super series" meeting at Lydden last year and it was the first time in 20 odd years of going to motor racing meetings that I nearly came home at lunch time. This was mainly because of a lack of cars and no depth in quality, the same cars entered in different classes smacked of a small entry and desperation.
If it had been my first experience of Rallycross then I wouldn't have gone again which I hope it wasn't for any other poor soul there..........

chris cake · 16 Feb 2007, 08:16 (Ref:1842916)

Cant really compare last year and the RSS to this year and Rallycrossopen
Championship !

Not sure what went on at lydden re classes .

Cars which enter two classes or meetings on the same day ? Yes its so confusing isnt !!!!!!!

silver bullet · 16 Feb 2007, 08:34 (Ref:1842928)

Right people this thread is titled Old Vs New it means cars, not championships.
Let's get back on topic.
As bigted say's, please read this thread http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64810
This rival championship bickering does no one any good and if it continues this thread will be closed.

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RXfan · 16 Feb 2007, 12:54 (Ref:1843113)

Im really not sure what the fuss is about when we are talking about 1 maybe 2 Group B cars. Has any potential sponsor been put off by the presence of these cars? The only problem I can see is the sponsor going to a meeting with a view to sponsoring someone, seeing a 6R4 or RS200 and the interest in the paddock they still attract and thinking I would rather see my company name on 1 of those!

Running them separate in a revivals class would be great to watch if a few more joined in the fun but my fear would be that where a meeting only attracts a small amount of supercars the Group B revivals would detract from the main event and become the centre of attraction for the spectators & possibly the media too. These meetings would then be remembered for "old men driving old cars" Seems like we are back to the start of this thread!

winnie · 16 Feb 2007, 13:42 (Ref:1843140)

Gibson is not going to run his metro in a revivals class - he wants to compete against the best and is not going to waste his money on a grid of 2 or 3 cars. I can see a revivals class working at the grand prix though as its a 'one off' event. The cars i could see competing would be both of the Gibson's - 6r4, Tracey - RS200 and another in 6r4, Rowlance - 6r4, Endean ? - Xtrac, O'Donavon - 306, new guy with ex squibb escort, Grant - escort plus there must be a few other unused cars around.

On another note, all of the current Supercars except Doran and Dermot use cars that are not in production, and most of the modified cars are not in production at the moment. Evans car car for example must be 5 to 6 years old, so should this be allowed.

leonidas · 16 Feb 2007, 14:00 (Ref:1843155)

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Originally Posted by winnie

On another note, all of the current Supercars except Doran and Dermot use cars that are not in production, and most of the modified cars are not in production at the moment.

Does this matter? Providing they are within four years of the end of homologation a supercar could in theory be Div. 1 compatible. They still look like the modern cars you drive to work in.

GB modifieds are a law unto themselves. There's not much incentive to build something modern now unless its got a lotus badge. You only need one really good car or engineer to expose the limits of a class's technical regulations.

HrRACING · 16 Feb 2007, 18:18 (Ref:1843325)

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Originally Posted by winnie

Gibson is not going to run his metro in a revivals class - he wants to compete against the best and is not going to waste his money on a grid of 2 or 3 cars. I can see a revivals class working at the grand prix though as its a 'one off' event.

It worked at Croft last weekend.