Driver Hamilton To McLaren!! - Page 2

wolfhound · 9 Oct 2014, 08:19 (Ref:3462456)

Some more fuel on a Hamilton to McLaren move from Autosport, hense Alonso to Mercedes. All speculation of course but its fun to watch.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116226

Richard C · 9 Oct 2014, 11:52 (Ref:3462497)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

Some more fuel on a Hamilton to McLaren move from Autosport, hense Alonso to Mercedes. All speculation of course but its fun to watch.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116226

Out of all the article discusses, I find the small mention of Alonso considering a move to Williams the most interesting.

Richard

**GTRMagic** · 9 Oct 2014, 12:13 (Ref:3462515)

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Out of all the article discusses, I find the small mention of Alonso considering a move to Williams the most interesting.

Richard

It would be the perfect solution. Could Williams find the money to do it?

They did for Mr Senna in the old days, but that was ciggie cash ..

Nicholosophy · 9 Oct 2014, 12:19 (Ref:3462520)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

It would be the perfect solution. Could Williams find the money to do it?

They did for Mr Senna in the old days, but that was ciggie cash ..

"Ah, Felipe baby, remember that contract you signed? *tearing* Fernando is faster than you, ok?"

VIVA GT · 9 Oct 2014, 12:23 (Ref:3462524)

I took quite a disliking to Alonso during his time at McLaren due to what went on there. More recently I have warmed a bit more to the guy and certainly rate his abilities as a driver nowadays.
I would love to see him at Williams as they're a team I want to see back at the top where they deserve to be. Having Alonso on board would firstly show that he rates their abilities (which would help bring them extra money), plus his development & driving skills would help no-end too!

Richard C · 9 Oct 2014, 15:04 (Ref:3462572)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

It would be the perfect solution. Could Williams find the money to do it?

They did for Mr Senna in the old days, but that was ciggie cash ..

Its a bit off topic, but I will continue the derailment I started...

I could imagine a one year deal with Williams to be a handy solution if things are not optimal to go to McLaren in 2015. Williams has out performed McLaren this year, who is to say next year will be any better for McLaren? Especially as the performance of Honda powerplant is a big question mark. Imagine Renault/RBR style pre-season testing fiasco! I wouldn't put money on McLaren setting the world on fire next year.

Drive one year for Williams and then move to McLaren or elsewhere (Mercedes?) in 2016 for a real WDC effort? Drive for Williams for little or no money (as they likely can't pay Alonso his going rate), but do it both for the fun of it and because (if they can maintain their form) that they likely will get better results than he would with Ferrari and likely a number of other teams.

However, I really don't believe the tale I have spun, but it is an interesting idea. I still believe it is Alonso to McLaren and Mercedes and Williams remaining unchanged.

Richard

JeremySmith · 10 Oct 2014, 01:09 (Ref:3462768)

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Originally Posted by Richard Casto

Its a bit off topic, but I will continue the derailment I started...

I could imagine a one year deal with Williams to be a handy solution if things are not optimal to go to McLaren in 2015. Williams has out performed McLaren this year, who is to say next year will be any better for McLaren? Especially as the performance of Honda powerplant is a big question mark. Imagine Renault/RBR style pre-season testing fiasco! I wouldn't put money on McLaren setting the world on fire next year.

Drive one year for Williams and then move to McLaren or elsewhere (Mercedes?) in 2016 for a real WDC effort? Drive for Williams for little or no money (as they likely can't pay Alonso his going rate), but do it both for the fun of it and because (if they can maintain their form) that they likely will get better results than he would with Ferrari and likely a number of other teams.

However, I really don't believe the tale I have spun, but it is an interesting idea. I still believe it is Alonso to McLaren and Mercedes and Williams remaining unchanged.

Richard

Highly entertaining ...

Nicholosophy · 10 Oct 2014, 03:23 (Ref:3462799)

If Fernando is focused on getting Merc engines he could always go to Lotus now. Would bring some money in for sure.

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2014, 11:08 (Ref:3462910)

Story Here

Motorsport.com believes Mr Alonso may be off to MercedesGP too.

Nordic · 10 Oct 2014, 11:55 (Ref:3462928)

For Hamilton to McLaren.

1) He would be emulating his hero Senna
2) He would be number one, no disputes
3) He would feel like going home
4) Honda has money to spend on a name
5) Something must be in the wind otherwise Alonso would have been announced as lead at McLaren last week in Japan.
6) His girlfriend has told him to do it.
7) His bother fancies a crack in the McLaren GT3 team

Against Hamilton to McLaren

1) A year of R & D, (maybe if he won this years WDC he would be more keen hence the delay)
2) Potential a slow car
3) Seen as running away from a good drive, But the thought of Alonso and Rosberg together in a team is not one of harmony
4) Never return to an ex, it always ends in tears
5) Merc would rather keep him over Rosberg (Rosberg to Mclaren?)

VIVA GT · 10 Oct 2014, 12:26 (Ref:3462938)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

For Hamilton to McLaren.

1) He would be emulating his hero Senna
2) He would be number one, no disputes
3) He would feel like going home
4) Honda has money to spend on a name
5) Something must be in the wind otherwise Alonso would have been announced as lead at McLaren last week in Japan.
6) His girlfriend has told him to do it.
7) His bother fancies a crack in the McLaren GT3 team

Against Hamilton to McLaren

1) A year of R & D, (maybe if he won this years WDC he would be more keen hence the delay)
2) Potential a slow car
3) Seen as running away from a good drive, But the thought of Alonso and Rosberg together in a team is not one of harmony
4) Never return to an ex, it always ends in tears
5) Merc would rather keep him over Rosberg (Rosberg to Mclaren?)

Some interesting points there Nordic and regarding point 4 in your against list: Didn't Lewis & Nicole split & are now back together again? (Maybe it's a principle he doesn't believe in).
Also, putting two & two together and making far more than four: Reading Autosports coverage of FP2 today, Lewis seems very comkplementary about the pace of McLaren and Button.
(I'm just saying...)

Nordic · 10 Oct 2014, 13:27 (Ref:3462959)

I think Lewis & Nicole are an 'item' again but I have not seen her long mooey in the pit garages so maybe not. Will have to dig out my latest issue of OK or Heat magazine to find out if they are on or off this week.

So working on the assumption he would ignore my advice never return to a scorned ex then he is a shoe in at both Mclaren and Nicole.

Although my post was slightly tongue in cheek, I really can see Hammy going back and Alonso ending up at Merc or a long, (but highly paid) shot at Nissan for the LMP program, they did say a while back 'you would not believe who was lined up' and I don't for a minute see that happening so it ticks the 'you wont believe' box! (Button maybe)

If the deal was done at Honda/McLaren, then it would have been announced at the home GP I feel.

Maybe Vettal forced Alonso's hand and he really does not have something lined up and will be sitting out 2015.

rdjones · 10 Oct 2014, 13:44 (Ref:3462965)

It's all very interesting and if this is ture then Lewis has pulled a fast one on everyone. I have to say there hasn't been this much movement at the top of the driver market for years it will be interesting to see who it all shakes out.

Paradise City · 10 Oct 2014, 14:11 (Ref:3462972)

Hamilton will find his way back to Mclaren if Mac remain in half decent nick. Doesn't seem likely it'll be next year although Mclaren is probably very willing. Probably depends how much of a toll pillow fighting with Rosberg has taken out on him and whether he wants to go through another year of that. Still, they are by the best car on the grid and are a fairly stable team compared to most other competitors.

Alonso going to Williams isn't likely. Williams can cobble together a little flier but then after a year or two seem to fall off the cliff. I wouldn't be fiscally confident in them or Lotus either and if he has a difficult year his stock will fall. If he can't get a deal out of Mclaren or Merc he'll sit on the sidelines I think.

steve_r · 10 Oct 2014, 14:26 (Ref:3462976)

I see this story / rumour is gaining momentum. I just can't see Hamilton walking away from the best car on the grid, to go to a team that have achieved nothing significant for the last 4 years or so, especially with a completely unproven power train for next term.

I also can't see Mercedes wanting to see the number 1 plate (potentially) on the front of a rival car next year.
Yes Rosberg and Hamilton have had their disagreements, but they are not beyond being managed.

Alono has less to lose by joining McLaren, having seen Ferrari seemingly go into decline after nearly delivering once or twice in recent years.

Surely there is no chance Alonso has left Ferrari with the intention of gardening for a year. Alonso has something lined up already, it's just not been announced for whatever reason.

**bella** · 10 Oct 2014, 15:33 (Ref:3463000)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

I think Lewis & Nicole are an 'item' again but I have not seen her long mooey in the pit garages so maybe not. Will have to dig out my latest issue of OK or Heat magazine to find out if they are on or off this week.

hate myself for knowing this but they are indeed on at the moment and have been for a while. i think it's because leaving the hounds with her is cheaper than finding a quality kennel.

and she's marginally lower maintenance than ron dennis. probably looks better in lingerie too.

**Aysedasi** · 10 Oct 2014, 17:10 (Ref:3463033)

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and she's marginally lower maintenance than ron dennis. probably looks better in lingerie too.

That was not a thought that I wanted to 'linger' in my mind - and just before dinner, too......

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 10 Oct 2014, 18:23 (Ref:3463063)

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and she's marginally lower maintenance than ron dennis. probably looks better in lingerie too.

...but I can't but help think that others would disagree. Certainly about the last bit...

JeremySmith · 10 Oct 2014, 23:52 (Ref:3463165)

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Originally Posted by bella

hate myself for knowing this but they are indeed on at the moment and have been for a while. i think it's because leaving the hounds with her is cheaper than finding a quality kennel.

and she's marginally lower maintenance than ron dennis. probably looks better in lingerie too.

She would get my vote if we were playing dress up.....

**bella** · 11 Oct 2014, 08:28 (Ref:3463279)

nicole to mclaren?

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 11 Oct 2014, 08:43 (Ref:3463285)

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Originally Posted by bella

nicole to mclaren?

That is worthy of a new thread...

JamesH · 11 Oct 2014, 16:07 (Ref:3463368)

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Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

...but I can't but help think that others would disagree. Certainly about the last bit...

Are you saying you actually believe that there are people out there (and not locked up for their own safety) who would prefer to see Ron Denis in lingerie than Nicole S?

F1Pete · 12 Oct 2014, 00:23 (Ref:3463546)

I watched Alonso say in an interview the decisions were made over two months ago. Eddie J speculated Alonso and Vettel to McLaren. With Vettel going to Ferrari, that leaves Alonso going to Mercedes and Hamilton going to McLaren. It's anyone's guess, but I believe the decision has indeed been made long ago. I remember making a rumour up years ago and it came true (JV's return)!

Nicholosophy · 12 Oct 2014, 08:19 (Ref:3463861)

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Originally Posted by F1Pete

I watched Alonso say in an interview the decisions were made over two months ago. Eddie J speculated Alonso and Vettel to McLaren. With Vettel going to Ferrari, that leaves Alonso going to Mercedes and Hamilton going to McLaren. It's anyone's guess, but I believe the decision has indeed been made long ago. I remember making a rumour up years ago and it came true (JV's return)!

Webber to Renault?

Paradise City · 12 Oct 2014, 10:29 (Ref:3463945)

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Originally Posted by F1Pete

I watched Alonso say in an interview the decisions were made over two months ago. Eddie J speculated Alonso and Vettel to McLaren. With Vettel going to Ferrari, that leaves Alonso going to Mercedes and Hamilton going to McLaren. It's anyone's guess, but I believe the decision has indeed been made long ago. I remember making a rumour up years ago and it came true (JV's return)!

According to Autosport, Alonso tried to engineer a swap between himself and Hamilton. That fell through. Ferrari got wind of this and began to doubt him. Doubts piled up with Ferrari when during contract negotiations Alonso kept insisting on a clause that if he didn't achieve a certain threshold he'd be released. Ferrari is on a long term comeback strategy and wanted total commitment.

Ferrari recontacted Vettel and Vettel had his RBR clause that if he didn't achieve a top three at a certain stage in the season, he could go. He activated that clause. His departure apparently includes bring some RBR staff across. How important those staff are I dunno. Alonso is apparently locked in negotiations with Mclaren but still has one eye out for Mercedes.

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