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Old 16 Nov 2014, 22:01 (Ref:3475570)   #31
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Thanks for all the support and shared stories. I still get excited when I see the WRC after being out of the loop for a while. As someone posted, time to create the story instead of watching it. Just put in order for some race apparel and heading to Eastern Creek soon for some serious racing.
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Old 17 Nov 2014, 11:23 (Ref:3475744)   #32
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Nice work Captain. Watch this space because 2015 might be a big surprise come Bathurst (12hr and 1000)
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Old 11 Dec 2014, 07:55 (Ref:3483991)   #33
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Grid Girls!!

Monster Girls, Grid Girls, IA Girls, Sprintcupnascar girls, Trophy Girls! Only reason to watch! Who cares about guys in cars?...
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Old 11 Dec 2014, 20:22 (Ref:3484199)   #34
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Old 11 Dec 2014, 22:18 (Ref:3484225)   #35
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I lost my passion when my mother died in 2006. I gave up marshalling a year later and in recent years I have only been to 4 meeting is since (despite the fact I get a free season pass for Brands Hatch). My life is now taken up with WW2 Living History and shooting. I am currently aiming to get into the Team GB shooting squad for Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. I watch races on TV if I am at home and nothing else is on. In fact the only race I make sure I watch is Le Mans
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Old 11 Dec 2014, 22:54 (Ref:3484231)   #36
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Monster Girls, Grid Girls, IA Girls, Sprintcupnascar girls, Trophy Girls! Only reason to watch! Who cares about guys in cars?...
Think there are easier ways to watch girls - with much less clothing and performing various exercises too - than tune in for some motor racing to catch a brief glimp of few of them
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Old 6 Jan 2015, 19:52 (Ref:3490418)   #37
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When my interest in all things 4-wheel racing dropped, my old love for motorcycles broke up. Love road racing. but also follow world endurance, sidecars, speedway, idm, bsb. I do follow the major series too but from a greater distance I used to follow 4 wheel racing. A fun thing to follow the past year was my local lawnmower race team becoming german champion.

Also it still is possible to race on low budget with 50cc mopeds and rollers in fun cups.
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Old 20 Oct 2018, 11:35 (Ref:3857903)   #38
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I dunno whats wrong but in past years my weekends would be full watching anything and everything. I used to get up at all times of the morning to watch F1 practice sessions, V8 Supercars etc. However the last 4-6 weeks ive just lost all interest in everything. Anyone else feel the same?

I dont know if its just overkill with almost every major series being available to watch online or if its just the same cars every weekend. (one make, GT3, TCR).

I dont know, i just felt like i needed to moan about it..
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Old 20 Oct 2018, 11:58 (Ref:3857906)   #39
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I fail to understand how anybody thinks that being interested in motorsport means just watching TV . It is not a sport that works at any level on telly -the director decides who you see and where , and the commentator assaults you with hyped up drivel on what you are watching. I try to watch most GPs and end up fast forwarding . BTCC ? Deeply tedious , not to mention its achingly dull support package .



Motor sport for me is a visceral, live , 3D experience - not sitting on a bloody settee and getting worked up about Jason Plato's boost settings. This year I've watched live HSCC and CSCC racing , some modern stuff including BTCC , drag racing , hillclimbs and autograss . Each has its own appeal but the one thing they have in common is that it is only fun if you are there. And if it is televised it usually means it is less fun - TV has both made and destroyed our sport
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Old 20 Oct 2018, 11:58 (Ref:3857907)   #40
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I dunno whats wrong but in past years my weekends would be full watching anything and everything. I used to get up at all times of the morning to watch F1 practice sessions, V8 Supercars etc. However the last 4-6 weeks ive just lost all interest in everything. Anyone else feel the same?

I dont know if its just overkill with almost every major series being available to watch online or if its just the same cars every weekend. (one make, GT3, TCR).

I dont know, i just felt like i needed to moan about it..
I have a little bit of the same feeling, although not to the extent you have. I very much have it with F1. I'll sometimes find an online stream, but I used watch every FP, and now I don't even watch every race.

But I do watch more sportscars than ever. Blancpain (although a bit poor this year), Blancpain Asia, GT4, VLN, etc. But now it seems that if a car has open wheels, I just don't care as much as I used to.

Maybe in your case, you just need a break. Burn out is a thing.
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Old 20 Oct 2018, 14:38 (Ref:3857927)   #41
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I still enjoy watching motorsport. Maybe having freeview helps. Means I donít spend all day watching TV usually
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Old 20 Oct 2018, 15:49 (Ref:3857940)   #42
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Totally lost interest in F1. Haven't watched a single race live on TV this year for the first time in decades and I've only watched the highlights of two.

Watched a lot of other series though. On top of Supercars, WEC and BTCC that I've always enjoyed I've got into the Blancpain Series and WRX. Goodwood Revival and Members Meetings races are probably the ones I enjoy the most though.

Seen a lot more racing in person as well but I must admit I actually prefer it on TV so I can follow what's going on. Having a group of cars blast past every 2 minutes is all very well but it's hard to actually follow the race if it's anything other than a sprint. Like looking around the paddocks though.
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Old 20 Oct 2018, 18:15 (Ref:3857953)   #43
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If the result of the race really matters to you then TV is better. But it spends most of the time concentrating on the 'battle ' for the higher places , meaning one misses out on the lower.


The Goodwood MM was a classic example - watching it trackside (Christ was it cold ) our little group enjoyed the top six in the pre war race but we really only had eyes for the guy , Mark Walker I think, running in near last . But every lap an even longer slide - massive opposite lock slides of 50 yards or more. Never saw him on TV - just a 42inch 2D picture , no smells , rubbish sound , no atmosphere , nothing. Only plus of the TV coverage I saw later was it didn't cost £120 to get into my front room , nor £18 for breakfast ..
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Motor sport for me is a visceral, live , 3D experience - not sitting on a bloody settee and getting worked up about Jason Plato's boost settings. This year I've watched live HSCC and CSCC racing , some modern stuff including BTCC , drag racing , hillclimbs and autograss .
This is a good point - being trackside and seeing, hearing, smelling and feeling the cars is a very different experience to watching on TV. Watching motorsport on TV is generally what I do when the Mrs is watching some crap I'm not interested in, it's a evening pastime. DTM at Brands this year was superb - as the cars blasted past you could feel the 'crack' from the exhaust as they changed gear, that along with the howl of the engines and the incredible way they change direction really makes a different experience to watching on TV. Rallycross - standing near a full grid of Supercars bouncing off the limiter with anti-lag battering away is one of the greatest things in motorsport - doesn't come across so well on TV. The Historic meeting at Brands - the noise of a grid of DFV powered F1 cars, the howl of Judd V10 sportscars - you just can't get that on TV.

This is part of what makes me fear for the future of the sport - electric cars can't touch the internal combustion engine for noise. The sound is such an integral part of the experience.

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The Goodwood MM was a classic example - watching it trackside (Christ was it cold ) our little group enjoyed the top six in the pre war race but we really only had eyes for the guy , Mark Walker I think, running in near last . But every lap an even longer slide - massive opposite lock slides of 50 yards or more. Never saw him on TV - just a 42inch 2D picture , no smells , rubbish sound , no atmosphere, nothing. Only plus of the TV coverage I saw later was it didn't cost £120 to get into my front room , nor £18 for breakfast ..
This is very true - quite often some of the best action is missed by the cameras. On the flip side - at some circuits you can't see much so when the cars come back in a different order or with bits missing it's very much a case of "what happened?" With BTCC I'll watch the races during the evenings after the event to "fill in the blanks" and work out what happened (again - the Mrs thinks I'm mad "Didn't you go and watch that?" ).

Some events though it's TV or nothing - Bathurst for example - no realistic chance of me seeing that trackside! (although if anyone wants to pay for me to go to Bathurst then go ahead ).
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Old 22 Oct 2018, 12:14 (Ref:3858390)   #45
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Being trackside means less to me than it did. Why? Because if it meant MM, it meant over 100 pounds, and that to me is preposterous, borderline robbery.

That is a big issue for me now, motorsport pricing itself well above it's level, because idiots are prepared to spend it.

Sorry to be harsh, but it is the truth. A lot of sports have stayed at a level in terms of pricing, but "supposed" major motorsport events have gone up astronomically, because a lot of people simply can't say no, don't realise what real value is, and are simply happy to spend hundreds of pounds to "be there", take their phone, spend most of the day taking pictures and not really taking much in other than a few, overpriced "street food" stalls, a washed up music gig from a 50 year old band, which is why your ticket is 20 dearer than it should be, and a queue to get out.

Sorry, major motorsport died the day tv got involved, series that are nothing special started demanding hosting fees, meaning tracks had to make tickets dearer to recoup any money.

Greed is the mistress here, and the more you keep handing over your hard earned the worse it will get.

So enjoy your lovely events, because eventually they will mean only the rich can enjoy this sport, and if that's you fair enough, but you will have been partly responsible for its death to poorer people.

You can spend your money on what you want of course, if you think 100 quid to watch a load of rich men ambling round Goodwood in winter is fine, who is stopping you. But maybe stop and think about the precedent you are setting for future generations.

And please don't start comparing with football or other sports, it's not the same.
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