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The intention of the rule is to protect crew. Crew can't be near the car if it is going to be dropped. This ruling is consistent with other mentioned rulings throughout the year, and no they were not 888 cars. All the information you need has already been provided. |
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Look at the perspective of that picture.
There are other angles that show it quite clearly. |
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The thing that is overlooked is that Triple Eight had notified catagory management prior to the pitstop that #97 had a clutch issue. This is factored in, when tolerances in the rule are considered. There is a precedent for this.
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Drop the car in neutral and the select first gear. Yes this is going to be slower than selecting first gear prior to dropping the car, but surely it is up to the team to make a decision and risk a possible penalty or play it safe. Teams shouldn’t be given a pass on compliance due to mechanical issues. |
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5 Nov 2018, 10:15 (Ref:3861073) | #107 | |
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It doesn't matter whether the car is in gear or in neutral, multiplate clutches drag, even when fully disengaged. In the #97's case, the clutch had a malfunction.
As per previous occurrences, teams are given leeway when there are clutch problems, provided they alert the officials before the next pitstop. That's the way the rules are. |
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What Supercars need to do is engineer a way to prevent a way to stop the wheels spinning while the car is in the air and being dropped, like a bunch of sensors connected to a lock-out system where the car can't engage gear until it senses all four tyres are on the ground.
That or ban the car/driver from engaging a gear until all four tyres are on the ground to prevent any rotation of the wheels. |
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5 Nov 2018, 17:15 (Ref:3861159) | #110 | |
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Or just accept the fact that maybe, just maybe, Supercars used their discretion because they didn't want to give a penalty and bury SvG way back in the pack and end the championship right there? Think about all the extra hype, attention, and coverage, which all = $$$$$$, they will get by keeping the championship alive until the very last race………….. So don't expect any penalties in the first race at Newcastle either………...
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Oh for goodness sake. Look at the video again. When 1st gear was engaged, the wheels turned a fraction and stopped firmly. There's nothing wrong with that. BUT AFTER THAT, as the car was lowered to the ground the wheels were rotating. The reason doesn't matter because the rule as it's written says that must not happen. All this interpretation is ******** because the rule is CLEAR.
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5 Nov 2018, 21:22 (Ref:3861219) | #112 | |
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The application of the rule, is at the discretion of the Sporting & Technical Director. Which is also a rule.
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If you are, I'm not referring to the engagement of a gear. I made that clear in my post. Or is there another rule you know of that I haven't read? |
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5 Nov 2018, 23:42 (Ref:3861247) | #114 | |
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Easy fix - car off during a pitstop. No working on the cars whilst they're running / car not allowed to run whilst in the air. Any reason this wouldn't work?
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We could always to the AGT way and have minimum timed stops... |
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I think it's really easy. Introduce a rule that states you can not engage gear until the car is dropped off the jacks. There's no risk of rotating wheels potentially causing injury (even with a clutch "problem"), and it's the same for everyone.
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Seems like many other categories around the world manage just fine. If the goal is to make the pit area a safer place to be then surely this would be a positive step. Hey, lets not get carried away now. |
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The car only goes into gear when all 4 crew hands are up so there's no risk of injury anyway.
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Telling the officials that you may breach the rules due to a mechanical issue when other options were available to the team is, well frankly, a little disingenuous. |
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6 Nov 2018, 05:30 (Ref:3861284) | #123 | ||
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Other options? Shane's foot on the brake pedal perhaps?? Surely that would work.
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I don't understand why people get so mad about an outcome to a sporting event.
I don't feel any poorer for how the NZ event played out, in any way, shape, or form. There are bigger things in life to worry about, than how a catagory goes about its racing. |
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