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8 May 2003, 10:47 (Ref:593333) | #1 | |
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DP2 Daytona Prototype based on a road car?
When the Picchio was debuted to the press, some Grand Fans were up saying how "innovative" it was and how cool it looked. Then someone came crashing down their party and mentioned that this car was a virtual clone to a small production road car in Italy.
If this is true, we have a Mosler DP and now another car with a production car body? Can anyone confirm or deny this? |
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8 May 2003, 10:50 (Ref:593338) | #2 | |
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I thought Picchio builded only light prototypes (SR2, CN) in the past.
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http://www.picchio.com
There currently is no Picchio road car. (And if there were I guess it would have a lower roof. ) |
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now production based DP's as the mosler is a splendid Idea, however, how would that really be different than a tube frame GTS they are just as slow...Why don't they try something new with a DP like making it a center drive cockpit?, with a fighter jet style cabin, or like those F1 superboats that race in rivers and ponds and stuff, maybe even put wheel on the boats they probably will go faster..
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8 May 2003, 14:21 (Ref:593574) | #5 | ||
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Picchio does make a road car "available" for almost 5 years, but I think only one was ever actually built
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Or a GTS version of the DP would be great: source: www.picchio.com |
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8 May 2003, 23:35 (Ref:594081) | #7 | ||
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that is the most fabulous DP I have ever seen, that 'Brumos Porsche" is the worst looking of them all, this is dare I say pretty Nice
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9 May 2003, 00:50 (Ref:594108) | #8 | ||
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The Mosler isn't a DP, it is a GTS.
You think the Brumos is ugly? Have you seen the Multimatic? |
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9 May 2003, 01:32 (Ref:594114) | #9 | ||
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Mosler is a gts however I have seen the Mosler bodied DP, its out there i can't remember the link maybe H16 can...Mosler in 2 overall winning capable classes? that's how you assure a win..
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9 May 2003, 01:40 (Ref:594117) | #10 | ||
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There is not in existance, nor have there been any plans to build a Mosler DP.
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9 May 2003, 02:06 (Ref:594125) | #11 | ||
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Chase engineering are taking their DP frame and *ahem* modifying a Mosler body to fit it.
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9 May 2003, 03:29 (Ref:594148) | #12 | ||
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Fogelhound, I assure you there is a team modifying a Mosler to DP rules. Wish I had a link.
gttouring, Would a center seat not be in complete vialation of the two seater rule that GA is so adamantly pushing for the DPs? Also, You made mention of fighter cockpit. If you are meaning a smaller cockpit area, that is completely out of the question with the rules. Or are you talking about what GA do, and not the chassis builders? |
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9 May 2003, 04:27 (Ref:594159) | #13 | ||
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I'd hardly call the Chase car a Mosler though. I mean, just taking the body work and putting SOME of it on a DP chassis.. a Mosler? Everything underneath portions of the skin will be strictly a tube frame DP, nothing shared with a Mosler at all. Maybe a Mosler kit car.. wait
The Roof line, width... the whole bit will have to be reworked. It is approved as a Chase chassis. Here is the list of approved constructors. Mosler is not on the list. http://www.grand-am.com/daytona_prot...rs%20Page.html >Wednesday, March 19, 2003 >Chase Engineering To Use Mosler Bodywork >Chase Competition Engineering has completed the chassis for its first Daytona Prototype and is in the process of modifying the bodywork from a Mosler MT900R to fit the chassis and the rules for the class. Owner Robert Chase says the car will be powered with a Chevy engine. He hopes to have it ready to race by August. I'm having some trouble imagining how they're going to "modify the bodywork from a Mosler MT900R". It will be very interesting to see how this little project develops. It appears that Chase may be the first constructor who is truly toying with the low-cost possibilities within the DP concept... |
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9 May 2003, 07:32 (Ref:594224) | #14 | ||
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You can't call a car "production based" just because it uses some road car bodywork. The Chase isn't based on a Mosler.
http://www.chasecompetition.com |
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9 May 2003, 09:13 (Ref:594288) | #15 | |
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Just to clear things up, I know what exactly what the name of the Chase DP is, and I also know that they "drastically" were able to cut costs by using the Mosler body. Most of the bodywork should be ok, except for the very middle of the car, which had to be enlarged and the sides straightened.
When I say "Mosler" DP, its sort of like still calling the DBA the Reynard 02S. Yes, I know the "offical" name, but I call it like I see it. |
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10 May 2003, 07:23 (Ref:595150) | #17 | ||
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I was under the impression that the Chase was going to be more Mosler than DP. If it will only have the bodywork and none of the chassis and components, then I guess it's not much Mosler at all. Still, when you see it racing, what's the first word that's going to pop into your head? Before you hear ugly, ridiculous, genius, or resourceful, your going to think "Mosler."
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10 May 2003, 16:26 (Ref:595457) | #18 | ||
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Thre was a concept drawing of the road coupe on the Picchio site some 3-4 years ago, but I never saved it. I don't have any photos of the actual road car, and I believe only one was ever compleated..sorry
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11 May 2003, 18:08 (Ref:596171) | #19 | ||
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Thats correct, Chase is only using Mosler bodywork as a basis for thier car. nothing under the skin is the same as an MT900R, other than both use Corvette engines.
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