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Old 25 Apr 2019, 21:53 (Ref:3899647)   #6601
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Love the GT2 car offering, sadly I'll probably never see the cars in the flesh.

Sadly my Glickenhaus racing shirt didn't ship until last night so I won't be able to show off the colors this weekend trackside for The Mitty. But it will be there for Petit, and possibly a flag if you make one by then.
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GT2 requires 25 cars. We have firm orders and deposits for more than that and will build them in 2020 so we’re good.
Our 2021 goal is as many as 200 so we can then start GT3.
Our LMP1 is a go after today’s meeting with ACO.
We will build 25 road Legal examples and start racing the WEC in 2020 and LeMans in 2021. The new rules are final.
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Old 25 Apr 2019, 21:59 (Ref:3899648)   #6602
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Well, at least there'll be one car there in 2021 guaranteed! I'm going to LM for the first time for my 40th birthday that year, so put on a good show!
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Old 25 Apr 2019, 22:00 (Ref:3899649)   #6603
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Well, at least there'll be one car there in 2021 guaranteed! I'm going to LM for the first time for my 40th birthday that year, so put on a good show!
Others will confirm soon.
Official announcement in about 10 Days.
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Old 25 Apr 2019, 22:07 (Ref:3899650)   #6604
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Yeah, I'll be following the news closely for the next two years. My goal when I was 20 was to be racing there rather than watching, but I'll settle for a good glamp and the karts I ended up racing instead!

Going to be fascinating to see what actually ends up being on the grid in two years - it's going to be either fantastic or a disaster is my current assumption.
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Old 26 Apr 2019, 06:23 (Ref:3899696)   #6605
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The new rules are final.

well, well, well...
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Old 26 Apr 2019, 08:33 (Ref:3899726)   #6606
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Even though I knew that was coming I'm still disappointed. I held out hope for 'plan B'
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Even though I knew that was coming I'm still disappointed. I held out hope for 'plan B'
'Twas always too good to come true

Bop shenanigans it is then
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 09:48 (Ref:3899932)   #6608
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'Twas always too good to come true

Bop shenanigans it is then
It does seem a shocking state of affirs when you've got a ready made grid of upto 10 LMP1 cars and class structure beneath it that basically seems to work.

To just turn it all on its head, ostensibly to drag a few OEMs kicking and screaming to play with your ball. The mind boggles, really it does.

At least going down the DPI route would have been sustainable.
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 10:26 (Ref:3899941)   #6609
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At least going down the DPI route would have been sustainable.
In what way?
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 11:59 (Ref:3899969)   #6610
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In what way?
Cars are significantly cheaper. They can be sold and run by customers. Less staff required to run the cars properly.

Not saying DPi is better, but it's certainly appearing to be a sustainable formula.
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 12:42 (Ref:3899977)   #6611
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Except that they only ever attracted 3 manufacturers that have no interest in running at Le Mans. And they're gonna need a new formula in a few years. Not saying it's not good for IMSA but just saying 'ACO should go with it' is very unhelpful.
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 12:54 (Ref:3899984)   #6612
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Except that they only ever attracted 3 manufacturers that have no interest in running at Le Mans. And they're gonna need a new formula in a few years. Not saying it's not good for IMSA but just saying 'ACO should go with it' is very unhelpful.
Well, let's be fair here. It has far attracted 3 manufacturers, and a fourth was privateer funded. That's 2 more manufacturers than the ACO Currently has, and the fourth is using a business model that currently does not work in LMP1.

These manufacturers have no interest in running at Le Mans with the current (or seemingly proposed) regulations. I'm not sure how that can be used as a negative of DPi, as that's solving the problem in IMSA.

Not that any of this matters, because the statement and the associated question is in what way is DPi more sustainable. It's cheaper, can be sold as customer cars, and be run effectively by privateers without a significant change to the teams structure. It is absolutely more sustainable than the current state of LMP1, and apparently the new ACO Regulations, since to be sustainable you need to actually get off the ground in the first place.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying DPi is good (or bad). But it's absolutely more sustainable. Just like using GT3 is more sustainable than GTE. Not sure it's the answer, but it's for sure more sustainable.
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 13:10 (Ref:3899986)   #6613
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We're discussing LMP here, so the question is if it's more sustainable for the ACO and Le Mans. The poster I replied to didn't even specify what he means with sustainable. So, just a general point, it's better to ask questions than just assume everyone is on your page and going from there.
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 13:14 (Ref:3899988)   #6614
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I'll refer your to my previous answer -

It is more sustainable because the cars are cheaper (unlike the current LMP1Hs), can be sold to customers (unlike the current LMP1Hs), can be run effectively against factory cars (unlike current LMP1Hs), and do not require significant changes to the privateers operation (unlike the current LMP1Hs).

If the ACO used this forumla then yeah, it'd be far more sustainable. Same if they used GT3 and GT4 instead of GTE. Doesn't mean it's better, but it's more sustainable no matter which way you cut it. The only reason those current manufacturers aren't interested in Le Mans is the cars aren't legal. If the ACO used DPi then you'd have customer and works cars there in year 1. There are already enough cars crossing the pond for Le Mans as it is.
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 13:22 (Ref:3899991)   #6615
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You're not interested in discussing this so I'll just leave it right there.
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