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Old 10 Oct 2022, 14:00 (Ref:4129719)   #1
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TCR World Tour 2023 (formerly known as WTCR)

Let's open a new thread for the 2023 WTCR season.

The AUVO (El Pinar owners) have said that they would host a round on August 6, with Termas de Rio Hondo on August 20.

That's if they continue rebuilding the racetrack, which requires government subsidies. The government has said that they will not invest on temporary facilities, which definitely excludes a street race.

http://www.motoresenpunta.com/pinar-6-de-agosto/
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 09:31 (Ref:4130220)   #2
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The FIA WTCR won´t exist in it´s Format in 2023. The Series will end after 2022. For 2023 a "One-Off"-Event is planned.

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2022...2022-campaign/
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 10:00 (Ref:4130226)   #3
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Looool the guy genuinely thinks the fuel they use is the reason for the problems they have https://twitter.com/autosport/status...bt5Vn3vk600ENA
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 10:04 (Ref:4130228)   #4
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So basically a return to the World Cup style event from the mid 90s. Hopefully better attended and better promoted that the FIA Motorsports Games which has a similar format of drivers representing national teams.
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 13:01 (Ref:4130264)   #5
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So basically a return to the World Cup style event from the mid 90s. Hopefully better attended and better promoted that the FIA Motorsports Games which has a similar format of drivers representing national teams.
With DSE at the helm? Unlikely. It's absolutely staggering that their incompetence has killed a series which was very healthy just a few years ago. And before anyone mentions COVID or Russia, other series of comparable standing have survived.
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 13:19 (Ref:4130271)   #6
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the series wasn't healthy since 2008
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 15:26 (Ref:4130284)   #7
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Enjoy the 15 car race with participants decided by a system that only mathematicians can work out https://twitter.com/neilhudson/statu...nsRz9x79oxutPQ
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 16:19 (Ref:4130290)   #8
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Enjoy the 15 car race with participants decided by a system that only mathematicians can work out https://twitter.com/neilhudson/statu...nsRz9x79oxutPQ
It's a joke right?

Lets say that some of the actual top WCTR drivers go...say five.
Then every regional champion (Europe, Asia, South America...) and maybe a pair of runner ups...
And thats it, maybe a National Champion

Thats if we forget about the manufacturers support for certain drivers...

Yeah, thats gonna work so ok that it will become the okaiest thing ever....
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 18:02 (Ref:4130298)   #9
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The series has needed to be put out of its misery for a while now, and I don't think the previous rules (TC1?) were any better when it was the WTCC which ultimately means its down to poor management despite them blaming fuel and whatever questionable justifications they come up with.



(Covid aside), For me the championship hasn't lived up to the status of being a world series for a long time now - cars, choice of tracks, manufacturer driven politics, the issues with the tyres, the way the BOP can mean a car can go from the front to the back of the grid almost from one race weekend to the next, the poor TV coverage and promotion from Discovery/ Eurosport.


Hopefully the force for a rethink will mean something better can be created - even if it takes a few years for it to grow again.
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Old 14 Oct 2022, 20:18 (Ref:4130310)   #10
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Tom Coronel doesn't have kind words for it
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Old 15 Oct 2022, 13:39 (Ref:4130380)   #11
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Wise decision. Manufacturers should put their money into eTCR.
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Tom Coronel doesn't have kind words for it
I agree with him.
(https://www.touringcartimes.com/2022...nd-tcr-future/)
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Old 16 Oct 2022, 13:35 (Ref:4130494)   #13
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Well said as always, Tom...I'm glad to hear that he's committed to racing for a few more years, we need more honest and passionate racers like him.

I kind of like the idea of the 'World Tour', although I would have preferred it be left as an open-entry single-race 'World Cup' and, given how series that have adopted a similar format like Formula Ford EuroCup and BeNeLux TCR recently turned out, I'm concerned as to how well it will actually work. Fingers crossed...
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Well said as always, Tom...I'm glad to hear that he's committed to racing for a few more years, we need more honest and passionate racers like him.

I kind of like the idea of the 'World Tour', although I would have preferred it be left as an open-entry single-race 'World Cup' and, given how series that have adopted a similar format like Formula Ford EuroCup and BeNeLux TCR recently turned out, I'm concerned as to how well it will actually work. Fingers crossed...
Agree about the open-entry formula, on the other hand if they manage to get the best drivers of the national/regional series which results in a full grid there's no need for open entry drivers. If they are good they are already invited.

It will be interesting to see if the drivers like Girolami, Ehrlacher, Huff turn up in a TCR series.
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It will be interesting to see if the drivers like Girolami, Ehrlacher, Huff turn up in a TCR series.
TCR Europe could get quite a boost next year then! ETCR too if there are any more cars joining the grid.
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