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He said "it's like they have another engine mode or something they can go to for qualifying". It seemed to me that it was just the perception he gets from the outside. I think the reality is that the Hyundai just has a better aero profile at high speed. It didn't come across as a suggestion of anything untoward. I also think that it's a bit of a strange item to bring up about your rival (their qualifying speed) when you look at the performance Turkington had in the same car as he did for qualifying through the season. |
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It might be true that they have a different map for qualifying. But it will still be fully within the permitted parameters. It might also be that the car is just better on aero. Either way, there will be nothing 'secret' about it or anything devious going on. |
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It was a silly, throwaway comment that he really shouldn't have made. I say that because when you look at the simplified explanations of the rules from the BTCC website - not even in the detailed technical regulations - then you see the following: Quote:
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Note the comments from Christian Dick in 2023 when they moved to their own power unit: “It’s little bits of detail. If we want to take a risk in terms of how close we run to the actual boost limit or temperatures and suchlike, that’s up to us – we’re not told by our engine company. We’ll [now] be advised by our engine company, but we can override that if we want to.” And it could simply be this 'freedom' that Excelr8 are using in qualifying. They might be pushing the boundaries in terms of boost and temperatures, and having to dial back for their race setting? |
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9 Oct 2024, 10:11 (Ref:4230090) | #3532 | |
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Or it could just be that car and driver are quick over a single lap. Turkington was constantly quick in qualifying but I don't see anyone suggesting that he was using a super secret extra boost setting
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Which made me wonder - is he right to suggest the Hyundai was top of the speed trap times? Looking at the evidence, there seems to be little there. It may be a bit of recency bias looking at the last two weekends, but it also is something that has little reason to worry about. So what if a car is bit quicker at top speed in qualifying only, if you are still getting a better overall lap time? |
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remember the subarus were always bottom of the speed trap and usually at the top of the lap times the lap time is only thing that matters |
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Maybe in qualy, but in a race it's very different. The scoobies were only any good when they led from the front or on tight and twisty tracks. Once in traffic they struggled when cars out dragged them down the straights.
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