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19 May 2009, 01:31 (Ref:2464896) | #251 | ||
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Scenario: Formula 1 car traveling down a 570 meter (0.35 mile) long straight, into a sharp 90 degree turn. How much gravel runoff area should I have directly ahead of the straight?
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Additionally there is the point at which you start to measure...is it the turn in point on the track? the outside of the track at the apex? Is there tarmac run-off or grass prior to the gravel? Best bet is to look at some real world circuits and solutions and take the best option. Edit: at Silverstone, from Club to the Abbey Chicane is 470m. From the turn in point to the barrier is 105m but this narrows down through the corner. |
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In comparison with your Silverstone example (and just now checking a bunch of circuits with google earth), there seems to be a lot of varied examples of required runoff length. I was a little worried that I was not putting enough runoff in one of my track recreations (60 meter runoff after 570 meter straight), but I think this will be sufficient. |
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I think the dreaded Tilke-dromes are best for reference. Theyve been purpose designed recently. More classic venues are often horrible in this respect.
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That all depends on the predicted speed of the vehicles against that particular place, the kind of energy absorbing material and where are they headed to. |
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There are a few things I was thinking about recently.
What are peoples thoughts on off-camber corners and their associated potential hazards (thinking of Turn 2 at Mosport off the top of my head)? Also, are quicker, decreasing radius corners really considered to be that inherently dangerous (things like the old 300R at Fuji or Espiral at Mexico City)? On a larger scale, it seems like a couple of new circuits must skirt, if not outright break, the FIA rules in a number of respects. The circuits in question are Potrero de los Funes in Argentina and Algarve in Portugal. Can anyone perhaps shed some light on what the deal is and whether there's something I'm missing here? |
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What are you referring to with Algarve, though? |
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18 Jun 2009, 23:04 (Ref:2486194) | #259 | ||
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The new Algarve circuit has to be one of the lumpiest circuits I've seen in a long time, the gradient is constantly changing as I assume from the TV pictures that the camber is as well.
I think it's an example of how it can be done safely as I think it's now got F1T (Testing ) status. |
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Technically San Luis was not new; however, it only hosted the one race meeting in 1987, IIRC. Considering the time gap and the modifications to the layout, I'm quite certain the circuit would have required a whole new FIA inspection, especially to be approved at Grade 2 status (the level required for an FIA GT Championship event).
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Long delay, I know, but apparently, we all forgot about this thread at some stage.
Jab, if you're still in the sub-forum, there are a number of relatively abrupt crests and valleys on the Algarve circuit. One such crest requires the WSBK riders to lift in order to comfortably avoid doing a backflip over one of the hills. |
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I see. Well, I guess they can't be that abrupt as we haven't seen any cars take off there yet
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