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Old 1 Feb 2019, 11:19 (Ref:3881095)   #51
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Old 1 Feb 2019, 12:02 (Ref:3881107)   #52
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Podd what a nice car you race! I assume its not a Berlinetta and quite remember the two samples raced here under the Scuderia Filipinetti colors. Very fast, pro drivers at wheel, body from a 1100 probably to improve air feed to the rad'. https://twitter.com/ndonvr/status/727401590563438592
I remember Jean Louis Lafosse at Montlhéry it was hard for him to achieve a good start, the first gear being long as the normal third one! OK with you, a good Escort in the right hands should be in the 3'05" region on Yoko's. From Mike's link, many pictures show cars well known in France…
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Old 1 Feb 2019, 12:50 (Ref:3881115)   #53
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I dont have the Grp2 arches as the TA regs didn’t allow them and im a bit less modified than the Filipinetti or Trivellato cars. Carbs rather than injection, standard size brakes and so on. Its fun though.


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Old 1 Feb 2019, 13:59 (Ref:3881130)   #54
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Nice looking! A 1300, then. I never saw a Trivellato but I can tell you that back in the day the Filipinetti were said more Grp5 than Grp2 and impossible to build for an amateur. Specially the gearbox and I doubt Bacci R keeps bits in stock. In Germany you can find parts for Italian cars, worth a go to Essen or Milano show. In an other thread of course. All this gave me a good kick, whatever the car I'd love to go there. Even with a Bertone…
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Old 1 Feb 2019, 16:54 (Ref:3881167)   #55
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Considering to refurbish an old GTV 2000 Grp1 with Falkens 912 now. Driving an Alfa at Spa will bring me back to 1976…
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Old 1 Feb 2019, 19:25 (Ref:3881206)   #56
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Bacci do keep parts but the price.....!!


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Old 1 Feb 2019, 20:30 (Ref:3881221)   #57
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Dont tell me! Since this afternoon we're looking for a 5th gear pinion set its the same as the GTJ 1300. We dont even think about the full trim and will probably finish our Falken stock. I'm searching the lap time we made in 2012, probably 3'18"… Best Grp1 was a Commodore B.
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How do you know if a race will be during day light or not, please?
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How do you know if a race will be during day light or not, please?
Spa has a 10pm curfew, and it will be mid summer. According to this website, using Liege, sunset will be about then.....

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Old 2 Feb 2019, 16:31 (Ref:3881356)   #60
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Old 8 Feb 2019, 18:52 (Ref:3882683)   #61
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I've looked longingly at this meeting as our race club - CSCC - have a cross-series race there, but if we did that we couldn't afford to do any other races during the year....and we are required to enter at least two other races in our series to qualify....


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Old 9 Feb 2019, 18:15 (Ref:3882834)   #62
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Similar situation here Richard, we had looked at a few CSCC races for this season but decided instead to chuck most of the budget at Spa instead.. I raced in Spa before, many yrs ago with CSCC and have had a hankering for it again ever since. Its a fantastic place, even in a low powered car.


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Old 10 Feb 2019, 09:11 (Ref:3882903)   #63
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Enjoy yourselves, the 3hrs is a good event. 1950 Euros entry fee, via Diogo Ferrero is also good value.

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I've looked longingly at this meeting as our race club - CSCC - have a cross-series race there, but if we did that we couldn't afford to do any other races during the year....and we are required to enter at least two other races in our series to qualify....


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Richard, you already have raced in 2 races to qualify. It is not 2 races each season, it is 2 races with thr club, period, AFAIR.
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And the Ardennes Challenge is open to all, if not!
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And the Ardennes Challenge is open to all, if not!
Correct, Mike. I was just referring to the CSCC 40 min races. Apologies for the confusion.
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Correct, Mike. I was just referring to the CSCC 40 min races. Apologies for the confusion.
No confusion, but I did wonder why Richard was only considering CSCC at the meeting.....
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Correct Mike, the Spa Ardennes Challenge a super race, open to a wide range of cars (except Caterhams) from Mini to Ford GT40, no HTP needed.

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I wonder why Caterhams are not allowed? I get why the more modern iterations would not be allowed (Duratec, sequentials etc) but those with H pattern boxes and Crossflow, BDA, or Lotus Twin Cam engined could all fit the criteria.

And they clearly allow continuation cars with engines not produced until the 1990s so why not a Caterham.
My car is probably older(2002) than some of the cars that are eligible and has an engine (K series) that is the sane vintage as a Zetec.

Just curious, thats all, i probably wouldnt wish to race on a mixed grid with heavy saloons etc!

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Just curious, thats all, i probably wouldnt wish to race on a mixed grid with heavy saloons etc!
Part of the pleasure when racing a Caterham, you dont take over just have to take under!
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I wonder why Caterhams are not allowed? I get why the more modern iterations would not be allowed (Duratec, sequentials etc) but those with H pattern boxes and Crossflow, BDA, or Lotus Twin Cam engined could all fit the criteria.

And they clearly allow continuation cars with engines not produced until the 1990s so why not a Caterham.
My car is probably older(2002) than some of the cars that are eligible and has an engine (K series) that is the sane vintage as a Zetec.

Just curious, thats all, i probably wouldnt wish to race on a mixed grid with heavy saloons etc!
A quick look at the regulations will tell you the cars which are eligible and welcome. The modern Caterhams were driving many of the traditionalists away.
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No confusion, but I did wonder why Richard was only considering CSCC at the meeting.....

I guess because 90+% of my racing has been with CSCC its just my default option.....but realistically the real answer is probably money, and the lack thereof.....unless our apartment in Tenerife sells, when I could be persuaded...but probably be too late for this year
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Part of the pleasure when racing a Caterham, you dont take over just have to take under!

I have to say that on the occasions when I've shared a grid with Caterhams, in either the 944 or the 75, its been scary - not only do you have to lower your mirrors to give you a chance of seeing the little blighters, but their lines (? ) into and through corners are so different from ours that its potentially dangerous.........
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They are just "different". I drove Caterhams, 1600 and 1800, in endurance and its a hassle when mixed with GT's or Tin Tops. They all are much taller! We try to have separated grids for Minis, Caterhams and M3's too. Dont ask why about the Bimmers! Do you intend to go and watch Summer Classic?
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Do you intend to go and watch Summer Classic?

I may do if I can persuade milady that she'd like a trip, but she's 15 years older than me and doesn't take well to walking about a lot, these days, despite two knee replacements, so I'm not sure....


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I have to say that on the occasions when I've shared a grid with Caterhams, in either the 944 or the 75, its been scary - not only do you have to lower your mirrors to give you a chance of seeing the little blighters, but their lines (? ) into and through corners are so different from ours that its potentially dangerous.........

You should have tried driving a Special Saloon Anglia around Brands on a crisp Saturday afternoon at the same time that a future world champion is in full flow piloting the latest Formula 2 car in serious testing mode!

On one lap, I checked the rear view mirror on entry into Paddock and he was not to be seen, yet by the time that the car floated to the edge of the track on exiting and I was starting up the hill to Druids, he was alongside me on the nearside. I wouldn't have known that he was there if I hadn't heard his engine, and he wasn't too impressed that he had to take to the grass to avoid me!

We had, surprisingly under the circumstances, a very friendly chat at the end of the afternoon in the paddock when I apologised to him. His only criticism was that it was an effing stupid place to park! We remained on friendly terms whilst I was still racing.
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