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26 Jun 2005, 20:38 (Ref:1340527) | #51 | |||
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I thought, that Imola was just a one time shot, but it looks like Giovanardi is back
Congratulations for Colciago,Huff and Tetring. But I'm afraid, that in Spa things will be back to normal, and Chevy and Honda won't be so competitive. Chevy needs now a few more horsepower - Giovanardi simply swallowed Huff on front straight. Quote:
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26 Jun 2005, 20:40 (Ref:1340529) | #52 | ||
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Now has to be the time for BMW to appeal that their 20Kg is removed?
It was a knee-jerk decision by the FIA (typical) to impose the new weight after Magny Cours, and I feel the wrong decision. Maybe a compromise can be reached? 10Kg off? |
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26 Jun 2005, 23:25 (Ref:1340620) | #53 | ||
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It´s confirmed, 30 seconds penalty for Colciago.
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26 Jun 2005, 23:40 (Ref:1340623) | #54 | ||
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Shame about Colciago's penalty. I guess the FIA just wants everyone to follow each other around.
His car was top notch all weekend though, and for that reason...despite two great races (which, I guess...he scored nothing!)...I have to give my man of the day to Antonio Garcia. Considering how off the ball BMW have been all weekend, I think he drove superbly today. Terting & Huff did well too. Terting scored as many points today as Gené has all season...though I know Jordi has been terribly unlucky...he's usually been the fastest Seat in qualifying etc. just always manages to find some wall or front bumper in all the races. Congratulations to Larini, back in the points also! Maybe the FIA should give an extra acclimatisation session at each race for new teams, if this is representative at all of Chevrolets true pace. Not quite fair that since RML & Chevy don't have any existing set-up notes to work from, they HAVE to have a bad first year. |
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27 Jun 2005, 00:02 (Ref:1340627) | #55 | |
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On a twisty track, weight will be a much greater disadvantage than front vs rear wheel drive. It makes sense that the bulkier BMWs struggled behind the lighter, more nimble cars.
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27 Jun 2005, 02:00 (Ref:1340664) | #56 | |||
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About the layout, what can i say, pretty cool, even when is twisty, it allow very well passing, and not only for the WTCC cars, the formula renault cars as well have lots of passing About the facilities for the public, well this is were i think more work have to be made, is not right make the people walk the entire 1.5 mile oval to reach your grandstand at turn one when your car is parked only at 250 m from the grandstand, the access gates for the VIP stands and control tower have to used for the people going to the stands 9,10,11, and 12 and not making them walk the entire oval to reach the desingnaed grandstand, this is a matter of organization, easy to solve...unfortunatly the facility and the local govement have a huge issue to solve, the access roads have to be expanded, the simple highway was not enough to handle all the public that attend the circuit, also the local police have to be more effective when handling the traffic, otherwize let this job to the highway federals, because until they arrive, no one was able to leave the circuit...by the way i delay about an hour to get my Micra out the parking lot and take the main highway to Mexico City, so City/State Officials, please take note of this... In general terms all the event was a success and with the lessons already learned i think this will be a great event... For all the friends of Europe...have a good week !!! P.S. During the present week i will publish my pics at my yahho photo album, so stay tune |
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Penalising Colciago for that is absolute nonsense.
A terrible decision. |
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27 Jun 2005, 09:11 (Ref:1340862) | #58 | ||
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Well I can see why, I thought when I saw the replay that he might get penalised.
He wasn't even half alongside the Alfa when he hit Gio, his front bumper rammed Giovanardi's rear wheel. If Colciago was alongside, or even half alongside I would think he could be rightly aggrevied at such a penality, but as things stand I think it was fair. I understand that touring car racing is always going to be rough, and that "rubbin is racin", I like to see cars banging doorhandles, but not punting each other off, there has to be limits. |
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27 Jun 2005, 09:13 (Ref:1340866) | #59 | ||
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he wouldn't have been penalised if he wasn't under observation after Imola ..
in the report about his penalty after Imola i remember stating that if he has any incidents in the next race he would be penalised well . look at the bright side . he won't have any ballast added . so maybe he can deliver in Spa too . |
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27 Jun 2005, 09:44 (Ref:1340889) | #60 | ||
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I think having seen the replays the last move by Colciago was worthy of punishment, although I think they should simply have reversed the positions between him and Giovanardi - Colciago drove a fantastic race to that point. There has to be consistency - really Colciago's move wasn't much different to the move Farfus put on Zanardi at Imola for instance.
A bit of door-banging is fine if the car is up by the A-pillar but not when there is barely an overlap. Punting someone out the way like that isn't really fair racing in my book. |
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27 Jun 2005, 10:05 (Ref:1340905) | #61 | ||
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and farfus got penalised for that .. 10 places at Puebla and again under observation just like Colciago .
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27 Jun 2005, 10:36 (Ref:1340934) | #62 | ||
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The move Colciago pulled off to pass Giovanardi wasn't exactly clean...but neither was Giovanardi's defence by driving into Colciago the corner before when he was pulling off a clean move.
So I think Giovanardi should get 30s too. |
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27 Jun 2005, 16:24 (Ref:1341225) | #63 | |
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IMO not only did Colciago have the legs on the Alfa, but he had far better turn in; he went for the inside (OK a bit of a lunge) but Giovanardi (who was well wide) simply turned in, probably expecting the Honda to back off as he was racing under threat of penalty.....
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27 Jun 2005, 18:08 (Ref:1341283) | #64 | ||
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It was (Colciago-Giovanardi battle) a clear racing incident, penalising Colciago was too harsh decision, I have seen Giovanardi doing much worse things and getting nothing.
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Any idea when the WTCC is repeated on Eurosport. For some strange reason our Sky recorded it and proceeded to delete it last night!
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