Driver Vettel vs Webber: Round 2 - Page 2

Knowlesy · 17 Mar 2010, 01:07 (Ref:2653885)

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Originally Posted by jab

I think that's fair comment

What makes Mark so attractive as a fan (I mean as a driver to support, not physically) is that he is flawed. I do like Alonso but I could never be a true fan of his, because he's too good. I like supporting the tragic hero, those that are flawed and doomed to failure because of their flaws, hence my preference of Webber and my retrospective preference of Damon and JPM (although I've always liked them - just now it's for different reasons)

Erm, Damon and JPM have won things, please don't band them with Webber.

jab · 17 Mar 2010, 08:34 (Ref:2654017)

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Originally Posted by SSbaby

In terms of 'overall' ability and talent, I would rate Webber with the likes of Barrichello. Is that a fair comparison? Both maligned drivers who seem to promise much but not quite capable of grabbing the 'bull by the horns', race after race, like the top tier drivers.

Yeah, Berger's another

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Erm, Damon and JPM have won things, please don't band them with Webber.

Damon maybe not, although his story didn't end with him winning the title. I'd say JPM was a pretty tragic figure in F1 terms - had the talent to do so much but made one mistake too many, and ended up by wasting it by running with his tail between his legs across the Atlantic

Mr V · 17 Mar 2010, 20:18 (Ref:2654488)

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Originally Posted by jab

I'd say JPM was a pretty tragic figure in F1 terms - had the talent to do so much but made one mistake too many, and ended up by wasting it by running with his tail between his legs across the Atlantic

Not to take this too far off topic but i think that JPM was simply born into the wrong era of F1 and he decided that he didn't want to be in it anymore, now, back to Seb Vs Mark.....

rocketracer · 19 Mar 2010, 05:18 (Ref:2655351)

RBR transport truck, reportedly Mark Webber's involved in a "pile up" in Melbourne:

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motor...0319-qkyh.html

he was harping on about having a new, lighter chassis built and ready for this race as well.... but, i would be surprising if any of the contents were damaged by the sounds of it...

Knowlesy · 19 Mar 2010, 23:32 (Ref:2656126)

Christ, the guy can't even drive a truck.

I'll be surprised if they don't replace him with Kimi now.

dsg · 20 Mar 2010, 07:41 (Ref:2656249)

Broad daylight, clear weather, and apparently smashed straight into the back of a another car. Sounds like someone other than Webber.

Mak · 20 Mar 2010, 13:50 (Ref:2656406)

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Originally Posted by dsg

Broad daylight, clear weather, and apparently smashed straight into the back of a another car. Sounds like someone other than Webber.

1 race in and everyone is sticking the knife in... I suppose he will just have to shut all these people up on the track, like he did last year. Webber is an oz and will handle the pressure better than most. Loads of repect to him, he is actually doing it. No bull**** there.

ralf fan · 20 Mar 2010, 16:30 (Ref:2656586)

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Originally Posted by Mak

I suppose he will just have to shut all these people up on the track, like he did last year.

By getting out scored and out qualified by his team mate. Like he did last year?

Marbot · 20 Mar 2010, 16:48 (Ref:2656599)

Maybe Webber can use the innovative 'smoke screen' device to better effect at his home race? Deploying it just 'before' the first corner would work much better IMO.

fourWheelDrift · 20 Mar 2010, 17:28 (Ref:2656648)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Maybe Webber can use the innovative 'smoke screen' device to better effect at his home race? Deploying it just 'before' the first corner would work much better IMO.

He'll do better in the next race, he's getting used to the lag between hitting the button on his steering wheel and the smoke reaching peak density.

JeremySmith · 20 Mar 2010, 17:34 (Ref:2656661)

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Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

He'll do better in the next race, he's getting used to the lag between hitting the button on his steering wheel and the smoke reaching peak density.

I like Mark Webber a lot, he is a good bloke...

Marbot · 20 Mar 2010, 17:42 (Ref:2656679)

There's no doubting that he's a "good bloke", and certainly he's refreshingly outspoken on many things. Like everyone else, he has an opinion.

**Bononi** · 20 Mar 2010, 18:36 (Ref:2656736)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

I like Mark Webber a lot, he is a good bloke...

Yeah me too, let's wait for more races and see how it unfolds.

Mr V · 27 Mar 2010, 20:17 (Ref:2661201)

Mark was mighty today, but Seb was mightier!

Q2, Mark seemed to spend alot of time on the track putting in some good laps, then Seb came along and one lap eclipsed everyone!

Alot was made of Mark making a mistake on his fastest lap, but Seb did the same on his fastest lap, if each mistake didn't happen i'd imagine that the result would have stayed the same, but that both Red Bull's would have been even quicker than the rest of the field!

JeremySmith · 27 Mar 2010, 20:29 (Ref:2661212)

These two Red Bull lads are very fast...Mark looked faultless during Q, brilliant stuff..

**Bononi** · 27 Mar 2010, 20:38 (Ref:2661223)

Now... to the first corner !

Mr V · 27 Mar 2010, 20:52 (Ref:2661233)

I don't think the boys at the front will have to worry (famous last words), but if i was Lewis i'd be s***ing myself, it all seems to kick off midfield at Melbourne!

djb · 27 Mar 2010, 21:22 (Ref:2661244)

"a bee's dick off pole!"--I love that quote, so refreshing to hear that sort of thing.

a tenth of a second off....hardly being positively beaten.

Jamesy-18 · 27 Mar 2010, 21:49 (Ref:2661257)

Vettel's getting better and better all the time. I'd be very suprised if he didn't win the championship. He's a star for sure.

jab · 27 Mar 2010, 22:57 (Ref:2661282)

He's unbelievable. He just needs to stop making mistakes. Then he could be the best in the sport

JeremySmith · 27 Mar 2010, 23:15 (Ref:2661291)

Those bloody German fellows...

They are just too good...

HughGJohnson · 28 Mar 2010, 09:06 (Ref:2661550)

Vettel has been tremendously unlucky in his first two races. If it weren't for that Vettel would have a huge lead over Webber. As it is Vettel "only" has twice as many points as Webber. It's not looking good for Webber.

I think round 2 is going the way many thought round 1 would. I think Red Bull should pull the Prost/Mansell swith on their cars. It's not going to hurt them that much if Webber's car blows up. Webber so far has at best been subpar. Horrendous in quali at Bahrain and in the Oz race.

jab · 28 Mar 2010, 09:09 (Ref:2661553)

Horrendous? I told you a million times before not to overexaggerate

HughGJohnson · 28 Mar 2010, 09:29 (Ref:2661571)

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Originally Posted by jab

Horrendous? I told you a million times before not to overexaggerate

I understand you're a Webber fan and all, but are you not extremely disapointed? I honestly feel I may have understated it.

jab · 28 Mar 2010, 13:04 (Ref:2661706)

He wasn't horrendous. He made a couple of mistakes. But he also made several overtakes and set the fastest lap. Hardly Ide-esque. Same for Bahrain - he made a mistake in quali on his lap

If that's horrendous, then how would you describe Piquet Jr's career?

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