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Old 8 Jul 2018, 11:40 (Ref:3835404)   #451
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"But in the corners, looking at the GPS, we are faster and it looks pretty good, but just on the straights at the moment we are really slow.

"Objectively we have no pace, not coming from the car, but from the engine."
Gasly sounds like a McLaren driver from the last three seasons...
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Old 8 Jul 2018, 14:03 (Ref:3835426)   #452
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Gasly could have the same nickname as Danny Ongais... "On the Gas" suits him well.
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Old 8 Jul 2018, 18:46 (Ref:3835506)   #453
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Another brand new "special built" Honda engine for Hartley.
Good for 3 laps.....
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Old 9 Jul 2018, 14:33 (Ref:3835669)   #454
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Gasly sounds like a McLaren driver from the last three seasons...
engine can't be that bad, he managed to overtake a FI-Merc
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Old 9 Jul 2018, 15:02 (Ref:3835675)   #455
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Good for 3 laps.....
I don't think STR/Honda have reasons to lie, but they say it ended up being a loose connector on the power unit (I assume a wiring harness connector). I assume it was all tied to the quick build of a new car after Hartley's FP3 crash to get him ready for the race.

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Old 9 Jul 2018, 20:03 (Ref:3835743)   #456
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I would imagine by now Hartley is quite keen to leave.
Hopefully Ganassi still has a seat for him.
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Old 10 Jul 2018, 05:10 (Ref:3835805)   #457
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And Quick Nick could have a say about Hartley...
"They made me the same thing", says Mr Heidfeld.
A good friend of mine told me so...
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 13:37 (Ref:3837321)   #458
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Old 19 Jul 2018, 12:40 (Ref:3837492)   #459
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Talk about egg on McLaren's faces....
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Old 19 Jul 2018, 15:40 (Ref:3837533)   #460
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Talk about egg on McLaren's faces....
Points this season using a Renault Engine:

Red Bull: 199
Renault: 70
McLaren: 48

Pretty poor going considering McLaren have had the best chassis on the grid for the past 3 seasons and expected to be on par with Red Bull this season
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Old 19 Jul 2018, 15:55 (Ref:3837536)   #461
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More fake news. What people think McLaren said and what they actually said are two different things. Just because people keep repeating statements doesn't make them true.
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Old 19 Jul 2018, 16:03 (Ref:3837538)   #462
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Perhaps the "fake news" comes from articles like this, which quote the Mclaren boss man himself.

https://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2...t-power-brown/

“In 2017 – because next season nobody knows – if we had the Renault power plant in there we would have been there or thereabouts with Red Bull. Some races ahead of them, some races behind them, but we would have been around there.”
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Old 22 Jul 2018, 10:40 (Ref:3837943)   #463
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Another all new Honda engine going into Gasly's car!

Gasly to the back of grid.









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Old 22 Jul 2018, 11:23 (Ref:3837957)   #464
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Old 22 Jul 2018, 14:17 (Ref:3838009)   #465
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Old 22 Jul 2018, 17:37 (Ref:3838064)   #466
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Shocking performance again, could hardly beat the Williams cars in a straight fight.
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Old 22 Jul 2018, 19:47 (Ref:3838095)   #467
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At least Hartley got a point
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Old 22 Jul 2018, 19:49 (Ref:3838098)   #468
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Shocking performance again, could hardly beat the Williams cars in a straight fight.
Not sure what race you were watching but Hartley finished in the points, beat both McLarens, indeed completed a lap more than Alonso, Leclerc and a Renault, whilst Gasly suffered from stopping for wets and had to pit again to change back to slicks. He still managed to beat Alonso amongst others. They both beat both Williams.
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was glad for hartley but red bull must be worried about the poor performance of the engine
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Old 22 Jul 2018, 23:17 (Ref:3838159)   #471
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Yeah it was another poor performance from TR. Hartley somehow passed 1 Williams, got the other in the pits but then they somehow passed him back on track. It looks like on a track like this that TR and Williams are pretty even on pace.


I was totally expecting Hartley to blow that last point on the last lap but somehow held of Kmag in the much faster car. Woohoo I bet he'll be celebrating like he won it tonight.
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 06:38 (Ref:3838823)   #472
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was glad for hartley but red bull must be worried about the poor performance of the engine
It's not significantly worse than the alternative, and Honda have better funding and facilities than Renault.
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It's not significantly worse than the alternative, and Honda have better funding and facilities than Renault.
The funding and facilities have, so far' failed to bring a competitive engine.
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The funding and facilities have, so far' failed to bring a competitive engine.
Until very recently the same comment would apply to Ferrari as well. The implication is that we can’t conclude that Honda will never get it right.

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Until very recently the same comment would apply to Ferrari as well. The implication is that we can’t conclude that Honda will never get it right.

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You think Mercedes may bail Honda out too?
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