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Old 30 Nov 2017, 13:07 (Ref:3784306)   #16
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I believe the good driver is looking for fast car first, money is important but when every team can offer a fair amount I think it's non-isue.
I guess money is even less of an issue when you're a 5 time world champion - you've probably got quite a bit of it by that point!

Realistically it was Citroen, M-Sport or retirement for Ogier wasn't it? Given the way Citroen performed throughout the season M-Sport was the better option.
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Old 30 Nov 2017, 15:13 (Ref:3784333)   #17
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Citroen were in talks with him until Australia, Matton gave him a final offer which he didn't want. It seems like he got quite a generous contract from Wilson in the end.
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Old 2 Dec 2017, 08:46 (Ref:3784707)   #18
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Not sure about that:
  • Ogier demands a fast car and lots of money. - Yep
  • Citroen has fast cars but not enough money. - Not sure here. Citroen probably have the slowest car but I'd have thought did have the money.
  • Malcolm has fast cars and enough money. - Yep
  • So either Ford are increasing their budget or a much better sponsorship deal has been struck. - Or Evans is cheaper than Tanak freeing up cash
Citroen admits it was outbid by rivals for Ogier.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...-ogier-980997/

Increased Ford backing key to keeping Ogier at M-Sport.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...-sport-984642/
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Old 2 Dec 2017, 09:21 (Ref:3784708)   #19
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As was mentioned on the Absolute Rally podcast a few weeks ago, if the double WRC Champions canít attract official backing and/or a major title sponsor, then something isnít quite right with the WRC. I hope Iím wrong and Ford come back officially
I thought that the 2017 WRC was epic. I was glued to every round. I followed about 10 racing series this year and WRC was by far the best. I like all the drivers and find it hard to pick a favourite. The tech rules seem to be about right.

There are only two problems I have with the current status quo.
1. The Toyota Yaris makes my eyes bleed when I look at it.
2. The routes. I'm not sure why it happened, but I guess it was to save cost, so I understand. To really get back to the good old days Rally GB needs to be more than a circuit of north Wales. It used to be an awesome road trip to follow it. They used to go to Kenya for the Safari, and the Australian round should be almost a raid. Coff's Harbour is 400 km from Brisbane, and 500 km from Sydney, no wonder there were no crowds.
Have a look at the route of the '88 RAC. Grizedale for breakfast, and Kielder for dinner. It doesn't get better than that. We used to hire a car and make full use of the crash damage waiver.
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Old 2 Dec 2017, 09:49 (Ref:3784711)   #20
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I just want to say that the best thing about the sport is that the championship is a little bit more competitive than the previous seasons and the sport is looking good for the future. I just hope that Ford gives more backing to msport
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Old 2 Dec 2017, 10:17 (Ref:3784713)   #21
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I thought that the 2017 WRC was epic. I was glued to every round. I followed about 10 racing series this year and WRC was by far the best. I like all the drivers and find it hard to pick a favourite. The tech rules seem to be about right.
Yes, I think we'd all agree about that. However, the point they made was it's still not making a big enough impression outside in the real world. Where are all the big sponsors, etc

Take our own WRC round; huge crowds, car parks full - but mainstream national media coverage was virtually zero.
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WRC is never going to recapture the media it had back then.

rallying was different then too.

The sad part is that if you go to a local event, you are treated like a leper if you tuirn up and want to watch.

Yet in Wales there were people standing in stupid places juts like they shoudn't

Its easy to target grass roots fans, but when your main house is not in order, it's a poor show
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It's getting better coverage than it was a decade ago, but it's still nowhere near the heyday of the 90s
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It's getting better coverage than it was a decade ago, but it's still nowhere near the heyday of the 90s
Yes - BT Sport, Channel 5 and Red Bull TV, which is free...... and still people say they don't know how to follow it.

But the mainstream coverage won't return; and some of that is self inflicted....
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Personally I think it will be really good to see Elfyn Evans in amongst the top class runners. His performance on his home turf this year was pretty impressive, how he shapes up alongside Ogier will be interesting.
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Personally I think it will be really good to see Elfyn Evans in amongst the top class runners. His performance on his home turf this year was pretty impressive, how he shapes up alongside Ogier will be interesting.
Agreed - although it has to be said that some of his performance on home turf was down to the DMack tyres being better than the Michelins on that event.

In other news Citroen have been out testing the C3 (and judging by the season just gone - they need to!)
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They dont need to test thne damn thing on asphalt, it's fine on that surface
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Rally Finland 2016: Ouninpohja Onboard.

I know this is the 2018 season thread so forgive me for posting this here; I've been searching and waiting for this piece of onboard footage for almost two years. I just had to share it somewhere people are likely to see it.

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