BTCC 2010 rumour mill - Page 43

Ben at AmD Essex · 16 Mar 2010, 20:31 (Ref:2653724)

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Originally Posted by Spaced Invader

Thanks again for all the pics and updates. Bet it feels great to have it out on track after all the hard work.

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Originally Posted by jimothy84

Nice work Ben and the other AMD boys, that car looks awesome. You guys must be proud seeing it on the track. Since us VAG fans have had nothing to shout about since the demise of the SEAT Leons, i'm looking forward to seeing this out at Thruxton.

oh, and the first pic of page 5 of your blog, how much were you guys dribbling over the RS500 in the same garage as you?

Cheers chaps

It does feel great finally see it go round track and we were all very excited after its first lap.

You mean this thing of beauty?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...066800x600.jpg

I was definatley drooling over it. I am an RS nut having grown up with them my whole life and now owning a Focus RS myself. If I heard correctly it was the first time out for that with its new owner.

kristof14 · 16 Mar 2010, 21:58 (Ref:2653769)

The Golf looks stunning in natural light, the red looks a lot better!

stedevil · 17 Mar 2010, 11:43 (Ref:2654111)

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Originally Posted by jimothy84

Since us VAG fans have had nothing to shout about since the demise of the SEAT Leons, i'm looking forward to seeing this out at Thruxton.

I'm a VAG fan, but never managed to get exited about SEATs nor Skodas.

A VW... now we are talking.

All the best wishes for your teams BTCC campaign Ben!

cos · 17 Mar 2010, 12:29 (Ref:2654142)

"Honda Racing" is down the side of Neal's Civil which he's testing today...
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1841

touring fan01 · 17 Mar 2010, 12:32 (Ref:2654144)

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Originally Posted by cos

"Honda Racing" is down the side of Neal's Civil which he's testing today...
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1841

wow. theres nothing much else on that car apart from official Honda signs and names so I guess they got the factory-backing they were after.

kristof14 · 17 Mar 2010, 12:44 (Ref:2654155)

Has anyone got any photos of Pinkneys car yet?

Spaced Invader · 17 Mar 2010, 12:50 (Ref:2654157)

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Originally Posted by kristof14

Has anyone got any photos of Pinkneys car yet?

i havent seen any in the livery for this season, only base colours of last years works car. http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1835

mark_l · 17 Mar 2010, 13:02 (Ref:2654167)

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Originally Posted by Spaced Invader

i havent seen any in the livery for this season, only base colours of last years works car. http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1835

That is the colour scheme he is running at Oulton Park, basically a Vauxhall livery without the badges.

Spaced Invader · 17 Mar 2010, 13:24 (Ref:2654176)

it'd probably be a wild stab in the dark to assume the paint job when done will involve pink...

redshoes · 17 Mar 2010, 13:30 (Ref:2654178)

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Originally Posted by cos

"Honda Racing" is down the side of Neal's Civil which he's testing today...
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1841

Hmm... not impressed. Hopefully it will look better in the flesh after they've added all the small associate sponsor decals.

Alfa Fan · 17 Mar 2010, 17:08 (Ref:2654330)

I think it looks brilliant! I actually hope it doesn't become too cluttered with additional decals!

trebor901 · 17 Mar 2010, 19:51 (Ref:2654468)

apparently Motorbase were at Brands yesterday but the car broke down after 4 laps, anyone have any idea's on who was driving it?

pics of it are here dont know if anyone can tell from the helmet

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/for...d.php?t=212363

some very good pic's of AMD's Golf there aswell

Alfa Fan · 17 Mar 2010, 20:04 (Ref:2654479)

Steven Kane.

Ben at AmD Essex · 17 Mar 2010, 21:14 (Ref:2654516)

Evening all,

Thanks again for the support and glad you like the Golfs new look.

Here is a short video of the car on its maiden lap! Shaun is only taking it very easy as it is the very first lap and then the car under took and then he came back in the pits for a once over.

http://www.vimeo.com/10210160

PDS · 17 Mar 2010, 21:37 (Ref:2654531)

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Originally Posted by kristof14

Has anyone got any photos of Pinkneys car yet?

There are a couple on here.

http://www.photoshelter.com/c/psp-im...00peXFZM9sv4c/

Some new Honda Civic images going on soon.

Alfa Fan · 17 Mar 2010, 21:56 (Ref:2654539)

Just like a standard VXR Vectra atm. Far more interesting to see when it when it's been PINKney'd!

Craner Curves · 17 Mar 2010, 21:59 (Ref:2654542)

So what surprises do we think are still to come?

Alfa Fan · 17 Mar 2010, 22:10 (Ref:2654549)

Wouldn't be a surprise if we were expecting it

bigted · 17 Mar 2010, 22:44 (Ref:2654567)

The Honda looks good, better than orange!

Sodemo · 18 Mar 2010, 00:07 (Ref:2654602)

Is there any real advantage in running a say 2009 BMW E90 over a 2007 BMW E90?

mark_l · 18 Mar 2010, 12:13 (Ref:2654812)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

Is there any real advantage in running a say 2009 BMW E90 over a 2007 BMW E90?

2 years less wear and tear on the chassis?

Pettersson · 18 Mar 2010, 13:06 (Ref:2654832)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

Is there any real advantage in running a say 2009 BMW E90 over a 2007 BMW E90?

Do you mean technically, or if the sporting regulations have any kind of compensation for running older cars (like Wiechers have -10kg in WTCC)?

Technically the cars are identical in the body with rollcage etc., the rest (subframe, suspension etc.) can be upgraded to any spec you want (or what your wallet allows you to

). I've been thinking a bit on this. If you would like to race a BMW i STCC's Semcon Cup, you could buy a spare chassi from 2007 and fully upgrade it to latest (or at least later) spec and go that way around the rules. If you use a sequential gearbox you get a national homologation and can run a car with chassis from 2008. But these independent cup rules don't apply in BTCC as far as I know, since the BTCC independents category (WSR, Motorbase etc.) has no limits for a car's age. The BTCC regulations are hiding a lot of interesting facts and figures.

If you mean the sporting regulations for running an older car, I'm sorry I don't have enough detailed knowledge about BTCC's regulations to answer your question. If TOCA goes according to the FIA regulations like Denmark and other national series, cars like the Lacetti should get a lowered base weight by 10kg, as well as older spec E90's (don't know what counts as "older" in this case).

Speaking of BMW's, the 1st gear ratio, diff ratio and drop gear ratio has been decided (probably since way back in time). I'm interested to hear what the BMW teams thinks about it after testing as those ratios are figures and doesn't say me anything. Sadly you can't get away with running H-boxes, as they get a weight handicap. But I can't find any info on how much extra weight that will be added?

Sodemo · 18 Mar 2010, 14:47 (Ref:2654913)

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Originally Posted by Pettersson

Do you mean technically, or if the sporting regulations have any kind of compensation for running older cars (like Wiechers have -10kg in WTCC)?

Technically the cars are identical in the body with rollcage etc., the rest (subframe, suspension etc.) can be upgraded to any spec you want (or what your wallet allows you to

). I've been thinking a bit on this. If you would like to race a BMW i STCC's Semcon Cup, you could buy a spare chassi from 2007 and fully upgrade it to latest (or at least later) spec and go that way around the rules. If you use a sequential gearbox you get a national homologation and can run a car with chassis from 2008. But these independent cup rules don't apply in BTCC as far as I know, since the BTCC independents category (WSR, Motorbase etc.) has no limits for a car's age. The BTCC regulations are hiding a lot of interesting facts and figures.

If you mean the sporting regulations for running an older car, I'm sorry I don't have enough detailed knowledge about BTCC's regulations to answer your question. If TOCA goes according to the FIA regulations like Denmark and other national series, cars like the Lacetti should get a lowered base weight by 10kg, as well as older spec E90's (don't know what counts as "older" in this case).

Speaking of BMW's, the 1st gear ratio, diff ratio and drop gear ratio has been decided (probably since way back in time). I'm interested to hear what the BMW teams thinks about it after testing as those ratios are figures and doesn't say me anything. Sadly you can't get away with running H-boxes, as they get a weight handicap. But I can't find any info on how much extra weight that will be added?

Thanks for the long post.

No, I was specifically meaning "speed over 1 lap". I guess Mark is correct though, the chassis would have taken two years worth of bumps and knocks...

Anyone know the age of the WSR, Motorbase and Forster BMWs?

**touringlegend** · 18 Mar 2010, 15:04 (Ref:2654926)

Forster BMW's are the ex Mat Jackson cars from 2007 & 2008, which if I recall were ex Priaulx WTCC cars from 2006 & 2007 respectively. Now, something tells me that when Jackson got these cars to run in those seasons they were upgraded to latest spec prior to delivery?

WSR built their 320's in kit form from BMW Motorsport I think. First seen in 2007, I assume these have been constantly updated and believe they are somewhat different spec to works BMW's, different suspension for example. 3rd car was first raced last year but don't know if it had any testing mileage beforehand.

Motorbase I don't remember where they got their's from. Ex Schnitzer WTCC perhaps?

On another note, I see rumours are now linking Gordon Shedden with a Dynamics return this year, apparently he was at Oulton this week when the team were testing.

Alfa Fan · 18 Mar 2010, 15:05 (Ref:2654927)

As far as I know

WSRs are 2007 new builds uprated to 2010 spec
Motorbases are 2007 Schnitzer cars uprated to 2010 spec
Forsters are Andy Priaulx's 2006 & 2007 championship winning cars

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