Nissan GT-R GT3

[lms]

ugly as hell

[TF110]

Originally Posted by urdragon

Okay a 4th place is not overwhelming but as it says the expression "we accept a car* as pet" we would say in Scattergories (No so bad results last year.).

*(Nissan GT-R GT3)

They won Sugo (their 4th race), came second in Suzuka in their next round, they failed to finish in 3 rounds but still placed 4th. Not bad for their first year if you ask me.

[Speed-King]

Heh, I actually like the front, but hate (,hate, hate) the boy racer'ish rear wing support...

[MJ_N_09]

From the video, it sounds JUST like the Porsche. I'm happy that it's not the V8 from their GT1 vehicle that wasn't even in the road car.

I have to admit it. I find the front just too outrageous/advanced/whatever you call it for GT3. Still, if it makes the car as good as possible, so be it.

[urdragon]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Heh, I actually like the front, but hate (,hate, hate) the boy racer'ish rear wing support...

How can you like those enormous flaps and air holes?? xD.
It makes it not seem like the road car, but i understand that will be the major performance increase from last year.


The car is way uglier than GT1 version, tough i respect the fair play of maintain the road car's engine which the Z4 GT3 doesn't do.

[Speed-King]

Are the diveplanes really any more extreme than what the Audi has in high downforce trim these days?

The one thing that has my worried is how long the diveplanes will stay on the car and what that would do to its competitiveness. Might be looking at a bit of a DTM-scenario here...

[urdragon]

I more think of them more similar to the ugly diveplanes of the LP600+:




The Audi R8 LMS seems discreet compared to them:

[tux]

Ridiculous how much aero it has, soon the cars will have wide arches like DTM cars.

[MJones94]

Wow, a lot of aero going on there! Is it not inconceivable that next year's generation of GT3 cars will be as fast as, or indeed faster than the GTE cars?

[MJ_N_09]

^ They likely will be cause that's where the development has made it way to, and the competition. This is why we have the Unified GT class in a couple of years.

[MJ_N_09]

Originally Posted by urdragon

I more think of them more similar to the ugly diveplanes of the LP600+:




The Audi R8 LMS seems discreet compared to them:

I think these both look fantastic, unlike the GT-R's front.

[Pandamasque]

Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

I think these both look fantastic, unlike the GT-R's front.

Not much can be done about it, if the road car looks from the front like a stove on wheels, then the race car would naturally look like a stove with some shelves

[helgi]

Knowing something about Russian fairy-tales I got better view why Nissan had taken that WC title. Just "By will of the Pike, do as I like".

[MJones94]

Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

^ They likely will be cause that's where the development has made it way to, and the competition. This is why we have the Unified GT class in a couple of years.

oh, so that is going ahead now is it? (It shows how far behind I am with GT news lately!)

[urdragon]

This is a GT-R front and everything else is **** !!!



But simply downsizing that to a V6 won't do, i think Ratel should ban a little bit those diveplanes, or minimum limit their size for aesthetic reasons, those things don't help get GT Racing to masses, even increasing performance of the cars.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by urdragon

This is a GT-R front and everything else is **** !!!



But simply downsizing that to a V6 won't do, i think Ratel should ban a little bit those diveplanes, or minimum limit their size for aesthetic reasons, those things don't help get GT Racing to masses, even increasing performance of the cars.

you realize the street car has a V6, right?

[urdragon]

Originally Posted by Matt

you realize the street car has a V6, right?

I meant that would be more beautifull just downsize the GT1 car to the size containing a V6 (To have the same engine as the road car) would not be enough to be performant.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by urdragon

This is a GT-R front and everything else is **** !!!



But simply downsizing that to a V6 won't do, i think Ratel should ban a little bit those diveplanes, or minimum limit their size for aesthetic reasons, those things don't help get GT Racing to masses, even increasing performance of the cars.

It's the same car minus the two diveplanes on each end. Performance comes before looks.

[MJ_N_09]

Ok, from that car and what you're telling me, it's not as bad as we've all thought. Just must be the color of the parts in testing.

[MitchZ06]

Originally Posted by urdragon

I meant that would be more beautifull just downsize the GT1 car to the size containing a V6 (To have the same engine as the road car) would not be enough to be performant.

So the GT1 car has terrible aerodynamics?

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by TF110

It's the same car minus the two diveplanes on each end. Performance comes before looks.

This is GT racing not prototype racing of SuperGT.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by FIRE

This is GT racing not prototype racing of SuperGT.

Ok, and? Diveplanes added to the car are for aerodynamic purposes, it doesn't make this a 'prototype SuperGT'. And other GT3's have them, so again, what's your point?

[urdragon]

Originally Posted by TF110

It's the same car minus the two diveplanes on each end. Performance comes before looks.

The air entrances on the bonnet are infinitely more worked on the GT1 car minimum, the air intake in the front, below the JRM logo is bigger, also, where the JRM logo is there is an air intake in the GT3 version, the GT1 version is much more worked, this and JRM is a superprofessional team, that bringed a car said to be a poor car to win regularly (Swiss Racing Team switched to the murcielago for the performance reason) .

The wheels are more covered in the GT1 version (More aero, more bodywork-> SuperGT) this for me is more aesthetic than that ugly diveplanes tough it may be expensiver.

[MitchZ06]

JRM also builds and develops the GT3 car with Nismo input...

[TF110]

That must have escaped some people's view on the Nismo site