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Calendar: Historic Racing
Mike Bell
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26 Aug 2017 to 28 Aug 2017 07:00 to 19:00
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Location: Oulton Park

The annual HSCC 3 day bank holiday meeting. A round of the Jaguar Challenge will be included. Be prepared for slow trip home if staying for Monday...

And speaking of Monday, it will include a race for MRL HTCC and TDT touring cars.
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Old 4 Sep 2017, 08:03 (Ref:3764395)   #76
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retrognome should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
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Looking at retrognome's picture of the Surtees one has to wonder if the incident was caused by a car problem of some sort rather than a deliberate attempt at corner cutting.

If do the outcome looks like a high risk H&S matter perhaps somewhat excessive in effect for the type of occurrence it was intended to prevent given the type of racing involved.

Now for a modern, professional BTCC type race one might argue that hitting such an obstacle is not unreasonable (unless it is very recently deposited on track by another competitor) but in an Historic amateur event one might question the purpose of that particular kind of obstacle.
Exactly the point I was trying to make. Thanks.
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Old 4 Sep 2017, 09:45 (Ref:3764416)   #77
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Mike Harte should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridMike Harte should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridMike Harte should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I appreciate the point that you are making, Grant, but I have long held the view that if the FIA would only ban the use of concrete curbs on corners and run-off areas following corners, then we might stop a lot of incidents, and we might not need these type of tyre bollards on corners.

I have never understood why this type of curbing and run-offs were introduced in the first place.

Cars are far more controllable these days than they were when the edge of the track was just a white line, and you went over that line at your own peril. On the apex of the corners it was usually just grass or rubble on the other side of the white line, and very often with a rut in it. The huge developments in car handling from improved tyres and suspensions, etc. have mad it much easier to follow the contours of the track without the need for the curbs.

The FIA have often made comments that cornering speeds are too high. The answer might be as simple as removing the artificial curbing. And with them and run-offs banished, we might also see an end to collisions between cars when one tries to dive down the inside, knowing that a) they have the curbing on the inside, and if they over cook it that they have b) the run-offs to save their bacon. It may also stop drivers forcing fellow competitors off and onto the run-offs.
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