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Old 7 Aug 2020, 17:47 (Ref:3993600)   #2351
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I found driving in Holland a fairly stressful experience around towns where I was VERY aware that cyclists had priority, and the type of roundabouts on which the Cambridge one is modelled were particularly nerve-twitching. I did think that in general however the Dutch do have a very relaxed attitude to their cycling - across all ages - with little evidence of our "lycra-lout" culture.
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Old 7 Aug 2020, 19:05 (Ref:3993624)   #2352
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Sorry richard, I dont know what you mean with lycra-tout. Is it a re to a beer or Mike H's edible panties?
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There's a good reason for that Gordon, they must follow the same rules as truck drivers! just take any highway there pulling a trailer at night and you learn quickly what wild means…
As a cyclist and a truck driver I take great offence at this remark. You will hear from my solicitor

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Old 8 Aug 2020, 07:00 (Ref:3993728)   #2354
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I found driving in Holland a fairly stressful experience around towns where I was VERY aware that cyclists had priority, and the type of roundabouts on which the Cambridge one is modelled were particularly nerve-twitching. I did think that in general however the Dutch do have a very relaxed attitude to their cycling - across all ages - with little evidence of our "lycra-lout" culture.
I know what you mean, Richard. The last time I drove in Amsterdam I was just glad to get out of the place without having actually squished anyone. I vowed never to return!

We get Tour de France re-enactments round here every Sunday but they are generally a bit more sensible.
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Sorry richard, I dont know what you mean with lycra-tout. Is it a re to a beer or Mike H's edible panties?

Ah, Gerard - we have a brand of aggressive cyclists who seek to "reclaim the roads" - often dressing as their competition heroes in the tight lycra shorts and tops of the racing teams whilst hurtling around our towns generally ignoring all rules of the road and indeed safety......many of them operating (in London at least) as couriers.



Not to be confused with the other scourge - the MAMIL (middle-aged man in Lycra) who may dress similarly but usually has a somewhat less athletic frame, and a liking for posing as if a competitor, but realistically happier creating a mobile road-block by riding side-by-side with his mates, often en route to the pub.....
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Hmm, I've been doinf a few charity rides recently on my mountain bike which is quite good. But I got fed up with being passed by riders on road bikes so I've invested in a full carbon bike. It only weighs 8 kg. Looking forward to trying it. We rented two E bikes in the new forest yesterday. They are a hoot to ride. I pushed it to max power and rode over a small humped back bridge. Managed to get some air.
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Hmm, I've been doinf a few charity rides recently on my mountain bike which is quite good. But I got fed up with being passed by riders on road bikes so I've invested in a full carbon bike. It only weighs 8 kg. Looking forward to trying it. We rented two E bikes in the new forest yesterday. They are a hoot to ride. I pushed it to max power and rode over a small humped back bridge. Managed to get some air.

Could you please give us plenty of warning if you are going to post a picture of you in your LYCRA shorts
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I've got a really nice hand built 531 road bike, 10kg exactly . . . . the weight of the bike isn't an issue, its's the wight and ability of the rider!

TBH I don't enjoy riding on the road anymore, driving cars on them isn't much fun either. Scooters need weaving to avoid craters and sink holes . . . . must look like I'm ****ed most of the time!
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Ahreed re the weight of the rider but a nice comfortable lightweight bile is always better for the road than a relatively hefty MTB.
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We bought two E-bikes and became quickly addicts. My wife's is a Sparta using a Bosch brushless unit, so comfy and all the accessories including tyres and tubes are great quality. Not cheap and rather heavy when the battery ends but very well engineered. Good buy.
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Old 8 Aug 2020, 22:10 (Ref:3993889)   #2362
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I've got a really nice hand built 531 road bike, 10kg exactly . . . . the weight of the bike isn't an issue, its's the wight and ability of the rider!

TBH I don't enjoy riding on the road anymore, driving cars on them isn't much fun either. Scooters need weaving to avoid craters and sink holes . . . . must look like I'm ****ed most of the time!
Not vintage Zef, but certainly historic from the look of it, chain set, toe straps, tall frame, all very 50/60's i would have said.

Peter is quite right, a proper lightweight is a joy to ride, compared with even a shopping bike, let alone an MTB.
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Peter is quite right, a proper lightweight is a joy to ride, compared with even a shopping bike, let alone an MTB.
No bike is “a joy to ride”. The ICE was invented for a reason. Jeez!
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No, a comfortable one.
I have ridden push bikes, as part of triathlon training a long tome ago, and still go to spin classes but i dont derive any pleasure from it.
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Attachment 63437.Did someone say fishing. Me and Mrs Delta had a lovely evening on the Thames at Sonning last night. Should of been racing at Zolder but hey ho.I was fishing and she was drinking with her mate. .
She's forgiven you for buying the Bianchi then?

On the subject of cycling - I'm a late convert to the activity. I took it up at 61 at Iain's suggestion. I now love it and have covered nearly 5000km this year. The club to which I belong (Woking CC) has very strict rules about conduct on the road - it's a shame some other clubs don't. Woking's motto is "Velo et Gateaux"


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Bauble, JS frame is mid 80's, my first proper road bike was a Peugeot from JOhn Spooner cylces in Worthing . . . . He also hand made frames. I picked it up on fleabay as a bare frame/forks and collected period Campagnolo parts for it.

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On the subject of cycling - I'm a late convert to the activity. I took it up at 61 at Iain's suggestion. I now love it and have covered nearly 5000km this year. The club to which I belong (Woking CC) has very strict rules about conduct on the road - it's a shame some other clubs don't. Woking's motto is "Velo et Gateaux"

Yes I can get away with a collection of racing cars but as soon as a new bike arrives its full on interrogation.
You do realize I have told her I am Cirrus Cycles test rider.
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Here she is. Just waiting for my special shoes to arrive before I can try her.
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I have ridden push bikes, as part of triathlon training a long tome ago, and still go to spin classes but i dont derive any pleasure from it.
I am not surprised, anyone who refers to 'push bike' clearly has no soul.
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Here she is. Just waiting for my special shoes to arrive before I can try her.

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It is Max. I sold it with a heavy heart to help finance my new build. I took it out for its last ride in my ownership a couple of weeks ago. A lap of the Isle of Wight - 100km and 1500m of climbing and it performed faultlessly.

Iain's going to love it.
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Hmm, I have a loong way to go to catch you lot. But with this covid thing and the need to keep active I've taken the plunge. I too need new shoes and cleated pedals but I took the straps off the current pedals so can ride it with my size 10 trainers. Not a purist's bike but a Boardman SLR 8.9c all carbon with Shimano 105 chainset. Will give it a run tomorrow morning.
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