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Old 3 Jun 2012, 02:15 (Ref:3084094)   #16
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Rachel,
Our coverage of Phillip Island has nothing to do with whether or not it's my favourite track but more to do with commercial reality.
We have a sponsorship agreement in place with the All Seasons Resort and that sponsorship is based on us covering all meetings at PI apart from V8's MotoGP and World Superbikes.
This deal was in fact brokered by the Bass Coast Shire Council who appreciated the exposure that grass roots racing at the Island was getting from In Pit Lane and the fact that it was bringing more people into the area.
We have said before that we treat Winton as interstate purely because of the huge costs involved in us filming there.
If someone up at Winton could cover the $1200 per camera per weekend that it costs us to film there then we'd happily be there every race.
Also as much as I hate the fact that there was a clash, I don't see why it should be CAMS responsibility to assist the successful running of a race meeting run by the AASA, who are their competitors.
I know that the Historic Winton has been on that weekend for decades but times change and tradition and $3.50 will buy you a cheap cup of coffee.
There's nothing major on locally this weekend so why not move it there.
Like I said I love the meeting, and the fact that I had to go to the Island also cost me personally as I was supposed to cover it for Auto Action.
The only way to solve this mess is to stick with strict date selection criteria as used to be the case in the past..
1. AGP & V8 Supercars set their dates
2. Other CAMS National Series then set their dates
3. CAMS State Series set their dates (trying to avoid clashes where possible)
4. Other 1 off meetings (Historics, Island Magic, Muscle Car Masters etc set their dates.
5. Everything else takes what's left.
If AASA choose to run their meetings on the same weekends than that's their decision.
This approach of course requires something called strong leadership, and as we know the words strong leadership and CAMS are mutually exclusive.
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Old 3 Jun 2012, 02:39 (Ref:3084097)   #17
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Doesn't the Austin 7 car club run the historic? Therefore I would assume they pick the date? Nothing to do with AASA?
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Doesn't the Austin 7 car club run the historic? Therefore I would assume they pick the date? Nothing to do with AASA?
Yes but having chosen the AASA over CAMS then CAMS responsibility to them and the event is over.
In setting their calendar that meeting ceased to exist as far as CAMS goes.
Having said that, the Shannons Sandown and Island Magic clash is 100% down to CAMS and if the Nationals simply couldn't get another date at Sandown as they claim, then they should have forced Island Magic to move.
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This approach of course requires something called strong leadership, and as we know the words strong leadership and CAMS are mutually exclusive.
Never has a truer word been said!!!
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I have a little bit of Sympathy for CAMS on the leadership question. If the organisation sticks to relying on all the club based committees ( there are over 100 of them across all disciplines I believe) it is a cumbersome, unwieldy & frankly messy setup where it takes forever to make change & it is very hard to show leadership.

If the organisation shows leadership & tries to take the committees down a better path, it is accused of arrogance & not listening to it's member base.

I by no means think that it has ever been a perfect organisation but accusing CAMS of lack of leadership is I think harsh given the structure that it has.
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Unless the Shannons series has a good schedule on saturday, I'll be choosing to go to Phillip Island. Whenever there's a clash, PI always wins out.
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No he doesn't

From this very forum via a simple Google search I found this.

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Within the next few days we expect to see the V8 Calendar released showing a V8 round on the last full weekend in May, at Winton. Most of you will realize that the Austin 7 Club has run HISTORIC WINTON on that date for the past 26 years.

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Old 4 Jun 2012, 12:06 (Ref:3085026)   #23
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No he doesn't

From this very forum via a simple Google search I found this.

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Anorak...
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(I'd love to see the V8 Chumpionship decided @ Winton, thus making the El Grande Finale the flop it deserves to be...)
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Some photo's from the weekend can be found here;

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