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View Poll Results: Who will be the 2019 VASC Series Winning Driver?
#2 Mobil1/Mega, WAU Holden - Scott Pye 0 0%
#3 Rabble Club, KR Nissan - Garry Jacobson 0 0%
#5 The Bottle O, Tickford Ford - Lee Holdsworth 0 0%
#6 Monster Energy, Tickford Ford - Cam Waters 0 0%
#7 Kelly Racing, KR Nissan - Andre Heimgartner 0 0%
#8 Brad Jones Racing, BJR Holden - Nick Percat 0 0%
#9 Penrite Racing, Erebus Holden - David Reynolds 9 23.08%
#12 Shell V Power, DJRTP Ford - Fabian Coulthard 0 0%
#14 Freightliner, BJR Holden - Tim Slade 0 0%
#15 Castrol Racing, KR Nissan - Rick Kelly 0 0%
#17 Shell V Power, DJRTP Ford - Scott McLaughlin 17 43.59%
#18 Irwin Racing, Chasports Holden - Mark Winterbottom 1 2.56%
#19 Truck Assist, Tekno Holden - Jack Le Brocq 0 0%
#21 Cooldrive Auto Parts, BJR Holden - Macauley Jones 0 0%
#22 Mobil1/Mega, WAU Holden - James Courtney 0 0%
#23 Milwaukee Racing, 23Red Ford - Will Davison 0 0%
#33 Boost Mobile, GRM Holden - Richie Stanaway 0 0%
#34 Boost Mobile, GRM Holden - James Golding 1 2.56%
#35 Optus Racing, MSR Holden - Todd Hazelwood 0 0%
#55 SuperCheap Auto, Tickford Ford - Chaz Mostert 2 5.13%
#78 Harvey Norman, KR Nissan - Simona De Silvestro 0 0%
#88 Red Bull Holden, RBHRT Holden - Jamie Whincup 2 5.13%
#97 Red Bull Holden, RBHRT Holden - Shane Van Gisbergen 7 17.95%
#99 Penrite Racing, Erebus Holden - Anton de Pasquale 0 0%
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Old 4 Oct 2018, 10:58 (Ref:3854494)   #526
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hmmm, 2 car team Forklift?
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And they're now saying that Charlie is going to run Mustangs
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And they're now saying that Charlie is going to run Mustangs
Adding fuel to the rumour? The fella in the background appears to be wearing a Preston Hire Team jacket, the car number is 18.

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Could be a Ford-supported sideways move for Frosty?
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Old 4 Oct 2018, 21:33 (Ref:3854568)   #531
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The bigger question is, who will replace him at Tickford?? Could be a career-killing move to take the seat based on current and recent form??
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The bigger question is, who will replace him at Tickford?? Could be a career-killing move to take the seat based on current and recent form??
Is Tickford confirmed for 4 cars?
Noise around suggests they might ‘do an 888’ and become a 2 car squad...
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Well said my friend, and in my case I noticed that there's more to life and moved on...

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Adding fuel to the rumour? The fella in the background appears to be wearing a Preston Hire Team jacket, the car number is 18.
Maybe Charlie has built a bridge, paid a visit to Dick, and sorted a deal to get better equipment and support for a Mustang package??
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The fella in the background appears to be Charlie?
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Maybe Charlie has built a bridge, paid a visit to Dick, and sorted a deal to get better equipment and support for a Mustang package??
Ooooh look, purple unicorns...
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Old 5 Oct 2018, 02:20 (Ref:3854588)   #537
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So is Charlie going to put his hand in his pocket, or chase better funding for this?

Given the slender budget of the last few years. It will require a big step up.



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LOL.

In seriousness. DJRTP have made it clear that they have no interest in customer cars (just ask MSR). Only way to get one of their Mustangs, is at the end of its DJRTP racing life.

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Neither Tickford or DJR seem to have shining experiences for customer cars, with the exception of 23RED.

So I am just mystified as to why anybody would go for the Mustang over 888, who absolutely have form for successful customer cars - Charlie knows this well!
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Neither Tickford or DJR seem to have shining experiences for customer cars, with the exception of 23RED.
The customer deal FPR (when still owned by Prodrive) had with Rod Nash Racing seemed to work ok, Paul Dumbbell and David Reynolds were competitive on occasions with the main cars.

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Maybe Frosty is threatening to go to the dark side in hope of more money or a longer contract with Tickford Racing.
Most likely, if he is to remain at Tickford he will probably have to take a haircut. His last deal was signed after he won the championship and was clearly the team's #1 driver, so he would have been able to attract money comparable with that of Lowndes, Whincup et al. But since then his stocks have fallen.

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We still don’t know

Preston Hire Racing = Stalking Horse?

Tickford = Not able/willing to pay 2018-style coin?

Tickford = Making nice til after Bathurst?

Frosty = In a deal or out of a deal?

A useless story...
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So I am just mystified as to why anybody would go for the Mustang over 888, who absolutely have form for successful customer cars - Charlie knows this well!
Might be a case of need over want. T18 needs better commercial backing and being 1 (or 2?) of 8ish desirable Mustangs on the grid. Might be easier to sell to a sponsor.
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Seems a very long bow to draw. Maybe PRA selling things cheaper than 888, not like they haven't done it before

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Seems a very long bow to draw. Maybe PRA selling things cheaper than 888, not like they haven't done it before

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Converting the 2 oldest FGs in the fleet to Mustang bodies may not be that expensive...
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Converting the 2 oldest FGs in the fleet to Mustang bodies may not be that expensive...
That sounds like a Charlie thing to do, PRA parts clearance?
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Doesn't the current T18 chassis date back to 2013ish? Any upgrade is better than no upgrade....

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Doesn't the current T18 chassis date back to 2013ish? Any upgrade is better than no upgrade....
Right now I dunno whether any PRA chassis is an upgrade from a 2013 888 car!
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The current #18 chassis replaced the Xbox/prototype that was written off at HV a couple of years ago.

It was new at the time.
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Could Charlie have done a contra deal for Forklifts and leveraged a Ford deal? I can't imagine 18 on the GT4 car is a coincidence but maybe it just is.

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A lot of coincidences about the place, it seems.

A bit of a lottery as to how it will all shake out.

Some chat suggests that Mr Winterbottom will need to look elsewhere to regain #1 status in the team
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The story around town seems to suggest a Team18/Tekno combination for season 2019, with Mr Burgess at the helm.

Bringing along the Tekno ZB, voila, here comes a 2 car team.

Allegedly owned/operated by Chasports. Allegedly.

Still no talk of sponsorship.

There is a new GM inside Metcash, and Bottle O sponsorship looks difficult/unlikely in light of the horrendous trading performance of the parent lately...
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