Jim Beam to end DJR deal

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by peckstar

I'm interested in that SBR comment,

it was a bit unclear. so i will answer both.

They will have no support from ford next year

or they will have more support from Erebus next year than they have from Ford this year

I was assuming that SBR will have less financial support from Erebus than they have from Ford now.........my impression of the SBR/Erebus deal is that it is only in place because SBR can't find a supportive manufacturer, as is the case of most others.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by bluesport

I was assuming that SBR will have less financial support from Erebus than they have from Ford now.........my impression of the SBR/Erebus deal is that it is only in place because SBR can't find a supportive manufacturer, as is the case of most others.

everything i read suggests its a succession plan. $20 million over 3 years, much more than the Ford deal ($2 million per year)

Mercedes adds star power to V8 Supercars

[chavez]

Originally Posted by peckstar

why would we stop them

do other sports do this?

Some minor sport known as Formula One used to have a rule that for a car manufacturer to be naming rights sponsor for a GP they had to be involved as an engine supplier or constructor.

The Mitsubishi sponsorship of the '85 Australian Grand Prix caused some angst at the time as it broke the FOCA rules.

But a company should retain the choice of how they spend their sponsorship dollars.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by peckstar

everything i read suggests its a succession plan. $20 million over 3 years, much more than the Ford deal ($2 million per year)

Mercedes adds star power to V8 Supercars

Well if that's true it's much better and should bring results........why doesn't the Giz commit to that?

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Well if that's true it's much better and should bring results........why doesn't the Giz commit to that?

At this point it is only hearsay and internet chat that he hasn't

[peckstar]

I dont know why, maybe the same as Why Casey is not taking 15 mill to race at Honda next year.

He has this Ford link and maybe he wants to keep it,

But as sizzle said, its just rumour at the moment

[ivision]

One of their current sponsors who informed me of the Jim Beam exodus said they were approached as a title sponsor but DJR were asking for an excessive amount of cash up front for signage per car before even before discussing the details on the sponsorship package. They however will be increasing their support to the team.

[rik]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Well if that's true it's much better and should bring results........why doesn't the Giz commit to that?

Perhaps because FPR/Schwerkolt are offering him a bigger pay packet than his current contract at SBR?

[kittle]

Originally Posted by ivision

One of their current sponsors who informed me of the Jim Beam exodus said they were approached as a title sponsor but DJR were asking for an excessive amount of cash up front for signage per car before even before discussing the details on the sponsorship package. They however will be increasing their support to the team.

And which sponsor is increasing there support.

[ivision]

Originally Posted by kittle

And which sponsor is increasing there support.

Wurth

[douglasjames671]

Sorry Dick, but having "idolised" you as a kid, you have now become a bitter, cranky old man, who believes more in himself and his son's apparent ability, than is justified.
The man responsible for getting Jim Beam onside, Steve Chalker, was unceremoniously dumped, as was the white knight, Charlie Schwerkolt.
Blind Freddy could see that you have had people bend over backwards for years to help you, and the team, get to, or remain at, the front of Touring Car Racing in this country, however your ability to show humility towards them is sadly lacking.
For the future, who knows, but Dick, if you stay involved, then it will be a financial disaster . . . step back, get Steven out of the seat, and let somebody else steer the ship out of troubled waters.

[kittle]

Originally Posted by ivision

Wurth

And i am guessing only a single car deal

[Gaz170]

I wonder what the deal was with the 4 COTF chassis ordered/purchased? A couple seem surplus to requirements now.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Gaz170

I wonder what the deal was with the 4 COTF chassis ordered/purchased? A couple seem surplus to requirements now.

I think the press release/Speedcafe story was interesting for the context of what was said

If you take the words on face value, Beam Global decided not to continue with sponsorship of the team on the basis of less than optimal conversion of eyeballs to purchase intent & achievement.. and also mentions CotF...

That said, using the brand to cover a customer car that has not really troubled the teev makers, other than when he is involved in some kind of incident, cant be too helpful in achieving fresh brand awareness..

... and it makes you wonder perhaps that a team with 888-built hardware currently, hot rodded by the DJR squad in engines and some chassis tune, chooses its CotF car partner as not 888, whether that was something that set off some noise in the sponsor about the sensibility of renewal?

The question of course is whether 888 would actually build a team a Ford bodied CotF, based on their sponsorship & technical relationship with Holden, however if the team's choice not to choose 888 was made on cost grounds not technical ones... then maybe the sponsor is more plugged into the sport than perhaps first thought...

Any chance Jim Beam could appear at Chasports?

[db120176]

Originally Posted by douglasjames671

Sorry Dick, but having "idolised" you as a kid, you have now become a bitter, cranky old man, who believes more in himself and his son's apparent ability, than is justified.
The man responsible for getting Jim Beam onside, Steve Chalker, was unceremoniously dumped, as was the white knight, Charlie Schwerkolt.
Blind Freddy could see that you have had people bend over backwards for years to help you, and the team, get to, or remain at, the front of Touring Car Racing in this country, however your ability to show humility towards them is sadly lacking.
For the future, who knows, but Dick, if you stay involved, then it will be a financial disaster . . . step back, get Steven out of the seat, and let somebody else steer the ship out of troubled waters.

Well said. As a long time supporter who saved up for a Dick Johnson's Team Australia membership back in the day, it is so sad to watch. There is a certain point where you cease to get the benefit of the doubt when business deals with longtime supporters and friends go south. I know he is your son, but Steven Johnson is just not good enough to have a fulltime gig. If you want a family project together, get a production car. If you want a viable V8 team, get another professional driver and some business assistance to keep the team afloat

[HProject]

Junior Johnson might not be a championship winner, but he's still ahead of the rest of the team in the championship. If he's not deserving of a seat, none of them are.

[STEALTHY]

Originally Posted by HProject

Junior Johnson might not be a championship winner, but he's still ahead of the rest of the team in the championship. If he's not deserving of a seat, none of them are.

How about 2010?

The frustrating thing as a DJR supporter is, had those previous drivers had a better teammate, they probably would have had better results, and as a side effect of that, more sponsorship dollars from ford.

Will Davison and James Courtney come to mind.

[kittle]

Originally Posted by kittle

Looks like thay Mr Maurie Pickering could come on board as a sponsor/part owner to help this team.

And i think my prediction is coming true.

DJR commits to Ford, announces new structure

http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/11/13/...mmits-to-ford/

[DAVID PATERSON]

Maurie Pickering also raced the ex- BarryWraith/Wayne Park VK Group A Commodore in the ATCC in the early '90s.

[kittle]

Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Maurie Pickering also raced the ex- BarryWraith/Wayne Park VK Group A Commodore in the ATCC in the early '90s.

The ex Gold Coast Bulletin car

[Marcos WTF]

Originally Posted by kittle

And i think my prediction is coming true.

DJR commits to Ford, announces new structure

http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/11/13/...mmits-to-ford/

Something about moving deckchairs around on 'Titanic' comes to mind.

I note that Dick has retained majority ownership, but there's 3 on the board of directors. How is that going to work if it comes to say, Dick (majority share holder) disagrees with a decsion of the other 2/3rds of the directors?

[kittle]

Originally Posted by Marcos WTF

Something about moving deckchairs around on 'Titanic' comes to mind.

I note that Dick has retained majority ownership, but there's 3 on the board of directors. How is that going to work if it comes to say, Dick (majority share holder) disagrees with a decsion of the other 2/3rds of the directors?

Then i am guessing will have a similar Charlie Schwerkolt kind of scenario.

[kittle]

Fox sports has further info of the DJR ownership structure.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sp...-1226515993972

[Trev Campbell]

One thing that got mentioned is a Development team. I think Maurie Pikering has helped out Josh Hunter a bit in the Kuhmo Series. It would be good to get him a gig in the Dev Series. I think the kid has real talent. Saw him drive through the field like a knife through butter twice at Mallala.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Trev Campbell

One thing that got mentioned is a Development team. I think Maurie Pikering has helped out Josh Hunter a bit in the Kuhmo Series. It would be good to get him a gig in the Dev Series. I think the kid has real talent. Saw him drive through the field like a knife through butter twice at Mallala.

I thought DJR had said earlier in the year that all 5 of the chassis they prepare had been sold?