boring prototype type stuff

Osella · 13 Jul 2002, 01:31 (Ref:333046)

I'm interested to compare the Reynard 2KQ series and the Lola B98/10

Why was the Reynard so bad? Is the RoC version's success at LeMans the first significant result for a car from this family?

Why do Lolas have such Wolseley-type names? What was the pointy-nosed one all about???

Muzza · 13 Jul 2002, 04:39 (Ref:333110)

Hello, Osella,

There were complains by drivers that the Reynard 2KQ was a very flexible monocoque, with seriuosly low torsional strength. Stefan Johansson called it a "s**tbox".

ROC was the only team to obtain (some sort of) result out of the car, and I was surprised to see that they managed to get anything out of it.

Until Eric Broadley (company founder and motorsport legend) was forced out of Lola in 1997, following their horrible F-1 debacle, all Lola cars - as you probably know - were always identified by a TXXX, where XXX a number identifying is the model of the chassis - as, for example, T212, or T70. I believe told that "T" stood for "type".

After Martin Birraine bought Lola out of receiveship the cars have been called B-something. I guess the "B" is in honor to Eric Broadley.

The Lola-MG EX257 does not follow this pattern as the car was commissioned by MG. Back in the 1950s the racing or speed record MG were prefixed EX, for "experimental".

**Aysedasi** · 13 Jul 2002, 11:33 (Ref:333193)

Quote:

Originally posted by Muzza

After Martin Birraine bought Lola out of receiveship the cars have been called B-something. I guess the "B" is in honor to Eric Broadley.

Could it be less selfless - 'B' for Birraine?

cybersdorf · 13 Jul 2002, 13:12 (Ref:333234)

Quote:

Originally posted by Aysedasi
Could it be less selfless - 'B' for Birraine?

Yup, I think that's it.
The B98 could have been more successful had Lola stuck with it instead of going for the B2K. That's what I think anyway.
The initial front bodywork of the 2KQ was simply an aerodynamic experiment that went wrong - in a way, it reminded me of the March 707.
ROC simply stuck with the car, and won Le Mans twice - by default...

Speedworx · 13 Jul 2002, 19:34 (Ref:333320)

I prefer the B2k car to the 1998 car.

Osella · 13 Jul 2002, 22:25 (Ref:333415)

does anyone know how many of these various types of Reynard and Lola were made?

MulsanneMike · 13 Jul 2002, 22:36 (Ref:333423)

I guess there isn't one answer to that question. There were many issues, Cyber's answer of chassis flex was one of them. Though later variants of the car (2KQ LM, ROC's -675 variant) fixed that issue. The car's initial aerodynamics were really wretched. The car was inefficient, generating low downforce for realtively high drag. Stroud was brought in to massage the car (2KQ LM) and while it improved the car, how good overall the car really was I can't say. In part, my personal opinion is that Reynard dedicated too few resources to the LMP project feeling confident that they could tackle the project with little effort and still generate a winner. Could they have been any further off the mark? Certainly the Reynard 02S was/is a proper race car. Perhaps more proof as to how bad the 2KQ really was? Reynard got serious about their sports cars far too late. Hopefully Nielson/RN can get that car on to the track.

Osella · 13 Jul 2002, 22:49 (Ref:333429)

can I just say 'thank-you' that I get Mulsanne Mike to answer my question- I've been aware of your site for a while and it's an honour!

Es Nes · 14 Jul 2002, 00:14 (Ref:333445)

wasnt the 02s the 675 they were building when reynard went bankrupt?

FastJoel31 · 14 Jul 2002, 00:55 (Ref:333450)

Yes, Reynard was building the O2S when the company went bankrupt, now another company (forgot which one) has the rights to the designs.

Muzza · 14 Jul 2002, 02:22 (Ref:333465)

Adrian Reynard admitted that taking the company to the sportscar arena was a mistake (read his interview to Autosport about the company's demise) - they had their hands full with several projects and embarked in another one without the proper resources (as Mulsanne Mike wrote).

cybersdorf · 14 Jul 2002, 12:31 (Ref:333629)

Didn't YR Magic buy the rights to the 02S? We may see Nielsen driving one yet! Derrick Walker bought Reynard America lock stock & barrel but he is only concerned with ChampCars.

Rhino · 16 Jul 2002, 09:03 (Ref:334793)

IRM bouht the rights and nielsen is meant to be racing it at road Atlanta in September. Pending Piper designs leagal action as they were meant to be building a car for them!!

MulsanneMike · 20 Jul 2002, 05:51 (Ref:337901)

Osella,

You're more than welcome.

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