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Old 23 Apr 2004, 07:27 (Ref:948612)   #1
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Will AVESCO try to entice the Brutes competitors onto the V8Supercar support card,...now that the wheels have fallen of the PROCAR machine ???
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 07:31 (Ref:948616)   #2
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I think they would be crazy not to entice them. At least on the Konica bill with a few races with the main game circus.
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 07:40 (Ref:948625)   #3
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DAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDAVID PATERSON should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I'm sure they will. Phone calls have probably already taken place.
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 08:50 (Ref:948679)   #4
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Kerri should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridKerri should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I remember reading in AA (i think) a while ago that TC asked if the Brutes could run at a V8S meeting & was told in no uncertain terms that he could not have Ross's utes.
So that should answer some questions.
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 09:19 (Ref:948695)   #5
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they are not ross's utes now , so i guess to survive they will go wherever they can ?
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 09:45 (Ref:948720)   #6
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I'm no legal expert, but just because PROCAR doesn't exist doesn't mean AVESCO can swoop on the Brutes, especially as it was PROCAR themselves that owned the rights to it.
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 09:48 (Ref:948724)   #7
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well if that company has disbanded then surely they dont own the rights anymore?

I dunno either I guess time will tell.
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 15:36 (Ref:949142)   #8
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PROCAR still owns the Brute rights, but as part of the winding-up process the rights will probably be sold to someone else. That someone colud be another Palmer company who could then run the races at someone else's meeting (like Aussie Racing Cars)
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 00:10 (Ref:949627)   #9
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Yes the intelectual rights to Brute Utes should and probably will be for sale ....I really wish my cheque book was a little fuller so as to acquire this for myself and not let it fall into the wrong hands..

Lets hope that the right thing is done with this category
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 00:10 (Ref:949629)   #10
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Well, I hope they go somewhere....they were probably the best catagory PROCAR had, so they don't deserve to be pulled down with the sinking ship!

The trouble with this news is, not only is it bad, but NO-ONE knows what happens now....do the series involved continue their calender for the rest of the year...stop right now....continue a limited selection of events....what? :confused:
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 03:16 (Ref:949731)   #11
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Are these catagories considered an asset of the company known as procar and if so can they be sold to the highest bidder.
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 03:46 (Ref:949744)   #12
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Depends on the contractual situation with CAMS, PROCAR may still hold the rights but be obligated to fulfil them....
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 04:24 (Ref:949755)   #13
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There was a similar issue with OWRS and CARTS Assets and ACUS.
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 04:28 (Ref:949756)   #14
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This could get a little more interesting yet.
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 00:25 (Ref:950507)   #15
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Just got of the telling bone with a brute owner, seems that there have been a number of hasty phone conversations in the last two days about where they will run and the possibility of a series with the brutes as the main event.
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 00:56 (Ref:950527)   #16
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The only problem is that Ross Palmer owns the ute category and they can only race where Ross lets them. I would suggest that they will still be still part of the PROCAR Champ Series as will all other categories that are in the series.
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 01:01 (Ref:950533)   #17
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Eastern Creek's Konica round in a couple of weeks may have a few new additions to its schedule huh
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 10:06 (Ref:950729)   #18
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Seems so GTR and probably a wise move would you agree.
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 10:52 (Ref:950784)   #19
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Depends who gets the shaft to accomodate these 'newly loved' categories I think...

If I were Mr P.Ward or Mr P.Pickett, I may indeed be piddling myself right about now....
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 11:00 (Ref:950793)   #20
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I think Mr Ward will survive but the other not so sure about, his catagories get strung out like bad spaghetti.
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 11:38 (Ref:950822)   #21
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Would piddling be the right term, GTR. One would think that a more solid originating liquid would be the likely case?
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 11:48 (Ref:950828)   #22
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So tell me GTR are the other 2 categories on the program safe for now
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 11:56 (Ref:950833)   #23
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I should think a solid entry of saloon cars would be quite safe Although would be making inquiries of the ARDC race office each day, just to make sure
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Thanks GTR, it seems they now have 48 for EC a bit scary don't you think?
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With 32 cars entered for Konica, it will be a full paddock Bloody good to see though!!
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