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Old 9 Sep 2019, 12:04 (Ref:3926877)   #1
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Continuation Blower Bentleys!

I had to check it wasn’t April 1st! First reported on the road car forum...

https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...8&postcount=90

Autocar piece here, but it’s reported many times elsewhere as well....

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...r-blower-racer

And just to authenticate- Bentley media also...

https://www.bentleymedia.com/en/news...nuation-series
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Old 9 Sep 2019, 12:13 (Ref:3926879)   #2
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I had to check it wasn’t April 1st! First reported on the road car forum...

https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...8&postcount=90

Autocar piece here, but it’s reported many times elsewhere as well....

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...r-blower-racer

And just to authenticate- Bentley media also...

https://www.bentleymedia.com/en/news...nuation-series
When I saw the thread title I thought "Surely not"...
I was wrong!
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Old 9 Sep 2019, 12:22 (Ref:3926888)   #3
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Will they be able to road register them? Have any of the other continuations been road registered? IIRC they havent, in which case what is the point?
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Old 9 Sep 2019, 12:46 (Ref:3926893)   #4
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Race cars, status symbols or just PR? Have none of the other continuations- Listers, Cobras, Daytona Coupes, DB4GT and Zagato, E Types (sure there’s others) received road registration?
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Race cars, status symbols or just PR? Have none of the other continuations- Listers, Cobras, Daytona Coupes, DB4GT and Zagato, E Types (sure there’s others) received road registration?
I would have thought that as newly built cars they should receive a current (age related) registration, but to do that, would have to conform with all of the current legislation. I didn't see any daytime running lamps or any of the current malarkey on the pictures of the Bentley!
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I would have thought that as newly built cars they should receive a current (age related) registration, but to do that, would have to conform with all of the current legislation. I didn't see any daytime running lamps or any of the current malarkey on the pictures of the Bentley!
Well, none of that ‘malarky’ is present on any of the other models mentioned either! And I’m sure some have received road registrations.

No doubt there is a tenther who knows (or has time to find out) how the system works or how manufacturers get round it......
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Old 9 Sep 2019, 14:51 (Ref:3926933)   #7
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No doubt there is a tenther who knows (or has time to find out) how the system works or how manufacturers get round it......
Some of the continuations are described in this article.

Of note - 'the new DB4 GT, with 340bhp straight six, is track-only like the D-Type'


Alternatively, this article talks about Alvis' continuations. They are road-legal.

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Old 9 Sep 2019, 15:49 (Ref:3926943)   #8
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Some of the continuations are described in this article.

Of note - 'the new DB4 GT, with 340bhp straight six, is track-only like the D-Type'


Alternatively, this article talks about Alvis' continuations. They are road-legal.
Interesting, thank you. I wonder how they get around the latest legislation on seat belts, crash testing & lighting etc? (Exhaust emissions were alluded to presumably by the mention of using fuel injection). Could there be some sort of exemption due to the low numbers produced, or, as they use effectively 1968 chassis & engine, will they bear E/F suffix registrations?
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Old 9 Sep 2019, 19:12 (Ref:3926976)   #9
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Why do they bother!
A London Talbot 105 is a much better car so why buy one of these trucks ?
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Old 10 Sep 2019, 05:15 (Ref:3927048)   #10
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You only have to look at race results to realise how much better the Talbot is! How about a run of continuation 105s, then.......
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Old 10 Sep 2019, 05:51 (Ref:3927053)   #11
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Ian Polson has been building replica 105’s for past thirty years.
Gareth Burnett at Pace Historic’s even knocked out two or three as well as looking after six of the seven real Alpine works cars.
Probably twenty pretend cars in all.
Surprisingly the history of some of the reengineered,replica copy etc cars has grown like Pinocchios nose .
Same thing happens with Bentley with dozens of pretend Le Mans bodied cars and recreations
Bit I don’t understand is they get advertised as matching number cars with new bodies which has always baffled me.
Many of the four and half’s have five point three litre engines
Always an interesting subject.
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Old 10 Sep 2019, 06:07 (Ref:3927055)   #12
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Can't argue re the better comp history than the Bentley's but since I was a young lad the Bentley story has always captured my imagination. I just love the look of them.

That said the I believe blowers never received the approval of WO and were financed by Birkin, or his girlfriend anyway.
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Not sure she was his girlfriend!
She had friends of her own!
It was Ms Padgetts money.
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Yes either way, it wasn't his money.
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Like the either way reference!!
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Could they not hit the road on a Q plate, under SVA rules?

The cars I mean, not Birkin and his not girlfriend.


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I believe you can get an age related plate nowadays, instead of a Q.... ? (In certain circumstances..)
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I believe you can get an age related plate nowadays, instead of a Q.... ? (In certain circumstances..)
I believe so too Mike, but it's the circumstances bit that baffles me. Max has mentioned the Q plate which I believe would be appropriate for the Alvis as even though the chassis & engines are of a known (old) age, everything else (including the fuel injection) would be new. Plus, you can't change from a Q plate and put a personalised registration on the car (which I'm sure would not suit an Alvis owner!)

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I believe you can get an age related plate nowadays, instead of a Q.... ? (In certain circumstances..)
Q plates are issued when the age of the vehicle is not able to be determined. That would not be appropriate for these cars.

To get an age-related number, the car must be 'built from genuine period components from more than one vehicle, all over 25 years old and of the same specification as the original vehicle'
Again, not appropriate to these cars.

As these cars are built from new parts, then they must meet current build standards to comply with registration requirements. These cars would either fall under:
a - 'National Small Series Type Approval Certificate' scheme, which requires a car built in 2019 to conform to the 2019 UK build regulations.
b - 'Basic Individual Vehicle Approval' scheme, which consists of 'either a visual inspection or a simple test on the vehicle to ensure, as far as practicable, that it complies with the regulations.'
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There has got to be a way of registering, probably ‘b’ above, as I’m sure it’s only the Aston that was announced as ‘track only’.

Mind you, there is nothing to stop an owner buying an old plate and just sticking it on a race car without registering the number to it. As long as they didn’t use it on the road, of course. The number would just be on retention, so maybe that’s why many replicas and continuations I see racing have road plates.....
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I would have thought that as newly built cars they should receive a current (age related) registration, but to do that, would have to conform with all of the current legislation. I didn't see any daytime running lamps or any of the current malarkey on the pictures of the Bentley!
DRLs are optional in the IVA testing guide.

The mandatory lighting for this car would be:
2x Front Position
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2x Stop Lamps
2x Front Direction/Hazard
2x Rear Direction/Hazard
2x Main Beam Headlights
2x Dipped Beam Headlights
1x Rear Registration Lamp
1x Rear Fog Lamp
1x Reversing Lamp

A number of these can be incorporated into single units.

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