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22 Dec 2003, 11:26 (Ref:818112)
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Brise FF Merlyn MK20 help wanted!
I am looking for any help anyone can give me regarding the history of a Merlyn 20A formula ford i am restoring. After checking with CRD (Merlyn) the car would appear to be the Tim Brise car used in 72,any photos or help would be appreciated.
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22 Dec 2003, 11:43 (Ref:818122)
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Do you mean Tony Brise?
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22 Dec 2003, 11:56 (Ref:818133)
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Dave, if its Tim - you could always give him a call at Brise Fabs ?
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22 Dec 2003, 16:37 (Ref:818280)
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Yes "FAN" i mean Tim!
You got a no for him Steve? if so please PM me - ta mate! |
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22 Dec 2003, 17:34 (Ref:818317)
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Sounds interesting Dave, if I remember rightly - Tim's Tony's brother.
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22 Dec 2003, 17:53 (Ref:818335)
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Thats right Mike, they both raced Merlyn's in FF1600,this car i have bought seems to be Tim's,all the numbers match up , just want a bit more history or pic's!
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22 Dec 2003, 18:10 (Ref:818348)
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I learn't something today! Had no idea that Tony's brother went on to race. Was he any good? |
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22 Dec 2003, 19:31 (Ref:818413)
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When they were both in FF they were fairly equal.
Oct 9 1971 Brands Hatch-Tony,2nd heat,4th final-Merlyn. Tim;2nd heat,4th final-Elden.This seems to be Tim's first meeting,Tony had been racing the Elden all season,acquired the Merlyn at the end of September,and passed the Elden on to his brother. |
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22 Dec 2003, 20:39 (Ref:818469)
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I seem to recall Tim (I think!!) having a monster end over end shunt in F3 at the Esses at Mallory.
I don't think he did much afer that. |
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23 Dec 2003, 10:35 (Ref:818819)
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I seem to remember Tim doing some Rallying, in a Mk.2 Escort, RS1800, is this correct ???
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23 Dec 2003, 15:54 (Ref:819084)
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23 Dec 2003, 18:51 (Ref:819252)
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Thanks Rob29 i have now made contact with Tim so i should be able to fill in all the details! Still would love some photos though, and any race results 71/72 both Brise's.
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23 Dec 2003, 18:55 (Ref:819253)
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24 Dec 2003, 09:50 (Ref:819796)
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Oct 2 Oulton Park BRSCC-1st Oct 3 Croft " 1st (T/YPC champ) Oct 9 Castle Combe HDLCC 3rd (BOC) Oct 10 Brands Hatch MMKMC 2nd heat ,4th final Oct 16 Oulton Park BARC 1st (BOC) Nov 7 Brands Hatch SSMC 4th-first drive in the Merlyn for TIM. Nov 21 Brands SDMC Crashed(apparently in both races! Dec 5 Brands TWMS/RMC 1st 1972 To South Africa for TONY to race in Springbok Series Jan8 Killarney Crashed & 2nd Jan 15 Brandkop-1st Jan 23 Roy Hesketh Retired Jan 29 Kyalami 2nd Feb 13 Lourenco Marques 1st Feb 20 Goldfields 2nd Back home to TIM March 5 Brands 1st (BOC) Mar 12 Mallory Park 1st (BOC) Mar 19 Brands 5th (BOC) After this Tim returned to the Elden & Tony was in F3 with a Brbham BT38. Sorry all my magazines & programmes for this period are long since lost. Photos I will search when I have time but I only had an instamatic at that time,and was busy with Tiff Needell FF team. Merry Chrismas & good luck in getting your car back on the circuits in the New Year! Last edited by Rob29; 24 Dec 2003 at 09:54. |
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30 Dec 2003, 11:45 (Ref:823471)
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still looking for any pics!!
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30 Dec 2003, 21:01 (Ref:823871)
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Anyone know if the 'Magic Merlyn' still exists?
Many FF race wins with Emerson Fittipaldi in 1969, Colin Vandervell in '70 and Jody Scheckter in '71. |
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30 Dec 2003, 21:47 (Ref:823911)
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and Frank Sytner (?)
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30 Dec 2003, 22:03 (Ref:823926)
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If Frank Sytner had it, I recall him being upside down at Aintree [his home town circuit] in a Merlyn in the early 70s. What happened next?
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31 Dec 2003, 08:50 (Ref:824324)
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The magic Merlyn is back with the Sheckter family in South Africa .
It was by far the most winning car they ever made with everyone who drove it winning in it except Frank Synter tells me something about his driving style. |
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31 Dec 2003, 08:59 (Ref:824331)
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excellent painting Andrew love it !!
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31 Dec 2003, 09:00 (Ref:824332)
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Great that it is still alive but it should be out on the tracks!
Did you like the Mk20 painting J? Shall I post a photo? |
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31 Dec 2003, 09:02 (Ref:824334)
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You beat me to it. I'll put a photo up later!
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31 Dec 2003, 09:17 (Ref:824343)
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It was Andy Marriot who suggested to Jody that he should buy the Merlyn from Vandervell. It was in a sorry state and Jody thought he was joking, but in the end went with it. He bought it for £1300 at the Brands Race of Champions meeting. He got a late entry and the first time he sat in it (and first time at Brands GP or any circuit away from South Africa) he went out to practice and got pole! The race was wet, Jody had never raced in the rain before, he led the first few laps then spun at Druids but clawed back to 2nd only 0.6sec behind the winner. Quite a debut.
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31 Dec 2003, 10:32 (Ref:824405)
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Jody wouldnt refuse, hes got all the cars he raced in. Im not sure if there are any missing in his collection now.
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12 Jan 2004, 14:34 (Ref:835414)
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Dave and Rob,
The Tony Brise Merlyn MK20 was a different car to that that Tim used in 1972.The Tony Bise car was sold to South African John Barnes after the last race of the Sunshine Series,and it was still being used down in Cape Town until the early 1990,s.It carries a MK20 chassis number,as opposed to Tim's car which is a MK20A. The Lola T200 that Jody started his single seater career in is also still here in unrestored and dismantled condition. Regards Ian |
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