360MRC 24hrs Race Proposition

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

No!

Oh come on Al ...

You have over a year to work on this and you have (if the regs are flexible enough) 2 or maybe 3 cars that you could run in relay (?) .

I'm sure there would be plenty of offers of assistance, though driving the whole event might be a bit unwise .....

[Mike Sheraton]

We'd would be up for it, maybe along the lines of production saloon regs/entries, think how many cars that are out there that could compete under those sort of regs, + cheaper to build if you would like to enter but dont have a car for it.

[MartinSmith]

Originally Posted by Mike Sheraton

We'd would be up for it, maybe along the lines of production saloon regs/entries, think how many cars that are out there that could compete under those sort of regs, + cheaper to build if you would like to enter but dont have a car for it.

Why dont you enter that 1989 325 in the six hour!

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by andy97

I wonder I could get a hire car for the w/e & have time to bolt in (& then remove) a cage, extinguisher & electical cut off etc before returning it on the monday morning!

And fit and remove a fuel tank/cell with filler that exits vertically. Not to mention a full fire extinguisher set up.

I think we should consider the aims here.

Yes, a run what you brung thing could work, but it will take a lot of preparation so its not a case of pulling a car off the road and hoping it will work, because it surely won't.

Then, as has been said, if you allow more modern machinery which has easy access to parts etc. it's a no brainer that serious damage will occur. Drivers will know that they won't be excluded from a series/championship for bad driving.

If however the classes are as per the 6hrs then it has a possibility. All the cars are race cars that are built for various championships or series. In and of itself, that is an encouragement not to drive aggressively.

Likewise there is no synergy (like that Simon?) with Britcar.

Ultimately I see this as a more serious motorsport event. If "Classic/Historic" It'll be populated with Mustangs, Cossies and M3s because those are the guys who can afford to build a 24hr race car.

If a production class then Scoobies and EVOs. Both seriously costly and definitely not "clubman" cars.

[Al Weyman]

Turbo Diesels I recon would be the way to go especially as by then fuel will no doubt be £2.50 a litre.

[johngee]

Originally Posted by Piglet

Sounds like great fun! Can we do presentations in the bar afterwards - they'd go on for hours!

If you can party for hours after clerking a 24 hour race.... I'm really impressed

[john ruston]

Here we go again.
When a new race or series is thought of many people confirm they would like to do it,50% actually mean it,25% have the hardware to do it and between 10-15% arrive on grid.

Best of luck people but it will be hard work.

This place is a superb talking shop but is long on dreams,hot air and broken promises but all made in good faith.Dreamers,gets people through the winter.

[Peter Mallett]

Al,

If you factor fuel cost into the equation you may as well give up. But fuel efficiency may be a better view, then you may have a point. But diesels pre 1990?

John,

I never commit unless I'm going to do it. I haven't made any committment here.

[Al Weyman]

Old Merc 190D













It was a joke!

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Old Merc 190D













It was a joke!

And pretty poor if I may say so. Next you'll be thinking Sierra!

[Al Weyman]

Ha ha at least that had a Peuguot engine!

[johngee]

Originally Posted by john ruston

50% actually mean it,25% have the hardware to do it and between 10-15% arrive on grid.

I remember a girl saying that to me once

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Al,

If you factor fuel cost into the equation you may as well give up. But fuel efficiency may be a better view, then you may have a point. But diesels pre 1990?

I think I've given up already, I could enter a Jaguar but I reckon it'd be £2K on fuel.

[MartinSmith]

Originally Posted by johngee

If you can party for hours after clerking a 24 hour race.... I'm really impressed

You clearly dont know the female capability do you?

[johngee]

Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

You clearly dont know the female capability do you?

There is almost no limit to my ignorance about the female capability!

[MartinSmith]

Originally Posted by johngee

There is almost no limit to my ignorance about the female capability!

Really????? Tell me about it.....anyway....back on Thread

[Al Weyman]

I had given up by post 26! I started to work for Nathans a few months after their aborted attempt on Le Mans 24 hrs and they were a very professional outfit and still couldnt finish it! In the same building was David Piper Racing Ferrari team and Paul Hawkins Racing GT40 team and I know Paul failed not sure about Pipers attempt. Actually Paul told me he had an ambition and that was to do the Le Mans single handed! I reckon he would have as well.

[Terry Scannell]

Originally Posted by johngee

If you can party for hours after clerking a 24 hour race.... I'm really impressed

John / Claire - you got to remember we've been practising this aspect for years at Snet after the Willhires and especially the 2cv's !!!

The term endurance in our case doesn't relate to the racing bit!!

Terry

[MGDavid]

A Montego diesel would do 24 hours!
but I'll spare you that ;-)
I'd like to see it for 'old cars' by which I mean old tech enough to be mended every now and then. If it were 2012 then I'd have a crack in a Lenham Midget, any component can be replaced in an hour (as long as it's worn out or broken but not crashed) :-)

[MartinSmith]

Originally Posted by Terry Scannell

John / Claire - you got to remember we've been practising this aspect for years at Snet after the Willhires and especially the 2cv's !!!

The term endurance in our case doesn't relate to the racing bit!!

Terry

Terry, I can party after 24 Hours, so can Piglet, and I know you can, its just John, he will need a set of jump leads and someone with a large battery to keep him going

[Terry Scannell]

Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Terry, I can party after 24 Hours, so can Piglet, and I know you can, its just John, he will need a set of jump leads and someone with a large battery to keep him going

Don't worry I've got Red Rockets phone number ready!!

Terry

[Piglet]

Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Terry, I can party after 24 Hours, so can Piglet, and I know you can, its just John, he will need a set of jump leads and someone with a large battery to keep him going

We could leave John in race control to deal with the protests

[MartinSmith]

Originally Posted by Terry Scannell

Don't worry I've got Red Rockets phone number ready!!

Terry

lol....Tell em to bring a flat bed!!! (boom boom)

Right on that note, it is now my firms Xmas doo so I'm about to go out and probably drink far too much wine as I always do....but, it is Christmas

Tis the season to be jolly well sozzled

Ta
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[MartinSmith]

Originally Posted by Piglet

We could leave John in race control to deal with the protests

Superb IDEA!!!

[Mike Bell]

Back to the topic , I reckon I will have a car or two that could possibly do the event- the 924 if can last 6 hours may be be a candidate and MK2 RS2000 next to be built was already planned to have an endurance tank with (possibly) dry break facility for Mocal churns.

Whether can afford to do the event is another matter- entry fee is easy to understand, fuel and tyre cost can be roughly calculated, but wear and tear on the car? Could possibly be looking at rebuilding engine, gearbox and diff after 24 hours and that could be a lot out of anyones budget. That is where the idea of a production spec car appeals- buy it, race it, sell it on if necessary..... BUT, even a prod car will need safety stuff which may make that difficult, and refuelling could be compromise if standard tank used.

A lot of thought needed, and certainly most entrants would want to have team drivers prepared not only to stump up for their share of entry and event costs, but a contribution to car wear and tear also? Not sure if at club level there are enough able to do that.