Audi or Porsche in F1??

steve nielsen · 6 Jul 2001, 14:38 (Ref:113752)

the domainnames Audif1.com and Porsche F1.com have been registered(check it at www.directnic.com)

Organization:
Dr Ing h.c.F Porsche Atkiengesekkschaft
Uwe Brettel
Porschestrasse
Weissach, 71287
DE
Phone: 0049 711911 4096
Fax..: 0049 711911 2058
Email: hostmaster@atlas.co.uk

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: PORSCHEF1.COM

Created on..............: Tue, Jun 26, 2001
Expires on..............: Wed, Jun 26, 2002
Record last updated on..: Tue, Jul 03, 2001

Administrative Contact:
Dr Ing h.c.F Porsche Atkiengesekkschaft
Uwe Brettel
Porschestrasse
Weissach, 71287
DE
Phone: 0049 711911 4096
Fax..: 0049 711911 2058
Email: hostmaster@atlas.co.uk

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 212-798-9200
Fax..: 212-629-9305
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.ATLAS.CO.UK 195.54.226.11
NS2.ATLAS.CO.UK 195.54.226.61
___________________________________________

Organization:
Formula One Management
Eddie Baker
Sapphire House, Biggin Airport,
Kent, TN163BW
UK
Phone: 01959 579 000
Fax..: 01959 579 001
Email: hostmaster@atlas.net.uk

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: AUDIF1.COM

Created on..............: Tue, Jun 26, 2001
Expires on..............: Wed, Jun 26, 2002
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jul 05, 2001

Administrative Contact:
Formula One Management
Eddie Baker
Sapphire House, Biggin Airport,
Kent, TN163BW
UK
Phone: 01959 579 000
Fax..: 01959 579 001
Email: hostmaster@atlas.net.uk

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 212-798-9200
Fax..: 212-629-9305
Email: domain-registrar@register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.ATLAS.CO.UK 195.54.226.11
NS2.ATLAS.CO.UK 195.54.226.61
__________________________________________----

Audi has done great at Le Mans and VAG is owner of Cosworth(Cosworth racing is owned by Ford)

So next year a Arrows-Audi or a Sauber-Porsche??

Quino · 6 Jul 2001, 17:02 (Ref:113771)

good detectivework!

EERO · 6 Jul 2001, 17:43 (Ref:113779)

My sense is that they registered the names to keep someone else from taking them... Its not uncommon for Companies to register alternates of their names in order to prevent mischief.

steve nielsen · 6 Jul 2001, 18:30 (Ref:113802)

Yep, but it seems to me that if they had no intention to go into F1 they did'nt need these domainnames........

senna12 · 6 Jul 2001, 21:01 (Ref:113851)

.....and would therefore be of value to no one else. Interesting..

Sodemo · 6 Jul 2001, 21:08 (Ref:113859)

Audi are part of the VW group who also own Seat and Porche.
But I can't see them entering F1 next year, maybe 2003.

Incidentially I doubt if Audi would market themselves around F1, their cars have Quattro (4-wheel drive) surely the WRC would be a more viable option?

DNQ · 6 Jul 2001, 21:12 (Ref:113862)

Yep, EERO is correct. Companies all ways register domains to avoid them being taken by some one else. For example, George Bush has registered GeorgeBushSucks.com and almost 200 hundred other domains, simply to stop other people from getting them.

BD · 6 Jul 2001, 21:16 (Ref:113864)

I hope they enter F1. It would be great to have another manufacturer.
Audi has looked into it and said that they want to win LeMans first. Well after 2 years in a row of success, hopefully they'll step up to F1.

Quino · 6 Jul 2001, 22:50 (Ref:113896)

No one but Audi and/or Porsche could have any reasonable interest in those domainnames. Even if they didn't claim them today and somebody else would, they could claim em later anyway, the other parties interest would definatly be outweighed by the interest of either Porsche and/or Audi.

Valve Bounce · 7 Jul 2001, 00:02 (Ref:113924)

Apart from Skoda, Audi and GM are the only big names missing from F1. I suppose if the other manufacturers start to get some financial mileage out of F1, the temptation to joint the fray would be extreme for the two.

senna12 · 7 Jul 2001, 01:00 (Ref:113960)

Quote:

Originally posted by Valve Bounce
Apart from Skoda, Audi and GM are the only big names missing from F1. I suppose if the other manufacturers start to get some financial mileage out of F1, the temptation to joint the fray would be extreme for the two.

Especially if the big manufacturers go ahead with their proposal to go their own way and form a new series. The smaller teams could provide the infrastructure for the rest of the majors to invest in.

mac · 7 Jul 2001, 08:13 (Ref:114002)

F1 will be at its strongest when all major manufacturers are taking part. I'd love to see every team with a works engine. Here's what I'd love to see:

Ferrari
McLaren-Mercedes
Williams BMW
Jordan Porsche / Audi
Honda (BAR bought out)
Renault
Jaguar
Toyota
General Motors Sauber
Arrows Hyundai / Lotus / Mazda / Mitsubishi / Rover / Subaru
Prost Peugeot (we can dream)
Minardi Lamborghini

I couldn't think of an engine for Arrows.

Don K · 7 Jul 2001, 09:38 (Ref:114018)

Quote:

Originally posted by Valve Bounce
Apart from Skoda, Audi and GM are the only big names missing from F1. I suppose if the other manufacturers start to get some financial mileage out of F1, the temptation to joint the fray would be extreme for the two.

�*koda are part of the VW-group.

Quote:

The Volkswagen Group is a particularly interesting group for investors to consider, bearing in mind its prominence as the largest automobile manufacturer in Europe and the fourth largest in the world.
With nine independent brands: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Rolls-Royce, Seat, �*koda, Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles and Volkswagen Passenger Cars the Group is able to offer ...

I guess Porsche are still independant ...

Don K · 7 Jul 2001, 09:46 (Ref:114022)

Quote:

Originally posted by mac
F1 will be at its strongest when all major manufacturers are taking part. I'd love to see every team with a works engine. Here's what I'd love to see:

Ferrari
McLaren-Mercedes
Williams BMW
Jordan Porsche / Audi
Honda (BAR bought out)
Renault
Jaguar
Toyota
General Motors Sauber
Arrows Hyundai / Lotus / Mazda / Mitsubishi / Rover / Subaru
Prost Peugeot (we can dream)
Minardi Lamborghini

I couldn't think of an engine for Arrows.

I'm afraid Mazda and Jaguar are both owned by Ford.

Let's make it:
Jordan Porsche
Arrows Hyundai / Lotus / Mitsubishi / Rover / Subaru
Minardi Audi / Lamborghini

Does anybody know anything about Hyundai, Lotus, Mitsubishi, Rover and Subaru?

steve nielsen · 7 Jul 2001, 10:15 (Ref:114027)

Hyunday is independant

Lotus is owned by Proton(Malasian)

Mitsubitsi is independant

Subaru(part of Fuji heavy industries, wich is partly owned by GM)

Rover was owned by BMW but is now owned by a british group of investors(I'm not sure......)

Sodemo · 7 Jul 2001, 11:11 (Ref:114045)

I'm sure VW own Porche, Skoda, Seat and Audi.

Cus Audi use the chassis from the Golf, for its A3 model.

mac · 7 Jul 2001, 11:12 (Ref:114048)

I knew I was going to stuff a couple of them up, with so many different companies being owned by others. Oh well.

Valve Bounce · 7 Jul 2001, 11:17 (Ref:114049)

Quote:

Originally posted by Don K
�*koda are part of the VW-group.

Hey!! I was referring to the Skoda faithful, you know, the owners who have to push their Skodas. I was wondering when somebody would bite - it took that long!!

steve nielsen · 7 Jul 2001, 11:23 (Ref:114052)

Volkswagen also own Lamborgini........

Lambo is the only italian manufacturer wich is'nt owned by Fiat(Fiat,Alfa Romeo,Ferrari,Lancia,Maserati,Iveco)

Nicholas · 7 Jul 2001, 11:26 (Ref:114053)

The prospect of Rover building works F1 engines sounds as ridiculous as Nigeria investing in a satellite programme, looking at the current state of the company.

Maxmil · 7 Jul 2001, 11:28 (Ref:114056)

I think Honda, Toyota and Misubishi is more than enough for Japan. My Subaru is a great little car, but definitely underpowered. I am thinking of the rally based model for my next.

This question of the ownership of Porsche keeps coming up. I was under the impression that the VWG included Porsche since some years back, but now I'm not so sure. I can find nothing on the internet that indicates they are affiliated. Can any of our Euro members research this and come up with a definitive answer?

mac · 7 Jul 2001, 11:41 (Ref:114063)

I wasn't serious about any of my thoughts. It's just a little fantasy of mine. Though not one of the more exciting ones.

mac · 7 Jul 2001, 11:44 (Ref:114067)

I don't know if Porsche are owned by VW, but they definitely have a strong relationship. From what I've read, the upcoming Porsche Cayenne 4WD is going to have quite a bit in common with a future VW 4WD (ie. the platform).

Don K · 7 Jul 2001, 13:07 (Ref:114097)

Quote:

Originally posted by Sodemo
I'm sure VW own Porche ...

Unfortunately, neither VW nor Porsche seems to be aware of that ...

Don K · 7 Jul 2001, 13:10 (Ref:114098)

Quote:

Originally posted by mac
I don't know if Porsche are owned by VW, but they definitely have a strong relationship

Well, to start with, I think the original Beetle was designed by Ferdinand Porsche.

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