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Old 9 Nov 2003, 16:28 (Ref:777964)   #1
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"IndyCar World Series" calender

Just a bit of fun for the off season here. With the addition of the IRL's first foreign race at Motegi in Japan, what would be an ideal "IndyCar World Series" calender be like? Here's my attempt, complete with circuit info from www.racingcircuits.net:

Mar Miami: Homestead-Miami
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...steadOval.html
Mar Arizona: Phoenix
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...oenixOval.html
Apr Canada: Sanair
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Canada/qu/SanairOval.html
Apr Illinois: Gateway
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...tewayOval.html
May Indiana: Indianapolis
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...napolisMS.html
Jun Mexico: Mexico City
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Mexico...oCityOval.html
Jun Brazil: Jacarepaguá
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Brazil/RioOval.html
Jul South Africa: Welkom
http://www.racingcircuits.net/SouthA...elkomOval.html
Jul Australia: Calder
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Australia/CalderOval.htm
Jul Sweden: Viking
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Sweden...rParkOval.html
Aug United Kingdom: Rockingham
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...nghamOval.html
Aug Germany: Lausitzring
http://www.racingcircuits.net/German...zringOval.html
Aug Tennessee: Nashville
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...rspeedway.html
Sep Pennsylvania: Nazareth
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United.../Nazareth.html
Sep Colorado: Pikes Peak
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...PikesPeak.html
Oct California: Fontana
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...a/Fontana.html
Oct Texas: Fort Worth
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...WorthOval.html

Leftovers:

Kansas: Kansas
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...ks/Kansas.html
Michigan: Michigan
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...ichiganIS.html
Kentucky: Kentucky
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...ySpeedway.html
Illinois: Chicagoland
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...l/Route66.html
Virginia: Richmond
http://www.racingcircuits.net/United.../Richmond.html

So a total of 17 races, 1 more than at present. I tried to schedule the tracks so that the dates are away from any other major motorsport events in that country, and to minimise the distance travelled between countries, eg. Sweden to UK to Germany. It was difficult having to cut some US tracks from the schedule, but I tried to keep those tracks in different areas of the country and the ones with variety such as Nashville, Phoenix and Nazareth.

What do you guys think, and what changes would you make?

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Old 10 Nov 2003, 08:37 (Ref:778540)   #2
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Looks good but one thing the Mexico City oval is no more since there's a baseball stadium in the way

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Old 10 Nov 2003, 10:58 (Ref:778684)   #3
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except in four weeks in july you are making the teams go to 3 continents
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Old 10 Nov 2003, 13:05 (Ref:778773)   #4
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aslong as its the Calder Roval
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Old 10 Nov 2003, 13:07 (Ref:778777)   #5
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Grr i messed up sorry! double post!

oh well while i'm at it...thoose things would be slow enough to race at Brands Gp right?

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Old 11 Nov 2003, 09:10 (Ref:779591)   #6
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Errr- i think the Viking- Raceway is not built...
And what about Mexico City? I don't think the oval-course is not raceable at the moment..

Hey, btw, where is the Monza-Oval in your list?
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Old 11 Nov 2003, 09:28 (Ref:779610)   #7
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You are correct; Viking Raceway is not yet built.

I sure hope the project becomes a reality though, since I live not far from the proposed site

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Old 11 Nov 2003, 13:41 (Ref:779825)   #8
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Calder Park raceway is basically bankrupt, and the track is hardly suitable for club racing...
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Old 11 Nov 2003, 19:31 (Ref:780189)   #9
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Errr- i think the Viking- Raceway is not built...
And what about Mexico City? I don't think the oval-course is not raceable at the moment..

Hey, btw, where is the Monza-Oval in your list?
Thanks for the info on Mexico City and Calder, guys. I wasn't too sure about them being included, but felt that Aus and Mexico deserved races to make it a proper world championship, and thought that those two were the only real IRL standard ovals in those countries. I've struck them off the list.

I included Viking because I thought it was going to be finished off pretty soon, like before the start of the 2005 season. rustyfan, any info on when it'll be completed?

Also noticed I forgot Motegi in my original list, so that's back on.

As for the Monza oval (http://www.racingcircuits.net/Italy/Monza1955O.html), well, it might have too bumpy a surface, be a bit too long for the IRL (using Indianapolis' 2.5 miles as a maximum limit), and have not been used since about 1960, but you can always dream... Notice on that link the proposal for a modern IndyCar circuit there in 1993 using the Parabolica, front straight, back straight and part of the banking. Shame it never came true .
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except in four weeks in july you are making the teams go to 3 continents
Yeah, I know, bit of a problem that, but I did that to try and do a kind of circular "world tour" in the middle of the season to stop the calender from looking like it was jumping all over the place. In this revised calender, I've decided to have the weekends on different continents split by 2 weeks, and the three weekends in the European countries are as close together distance-wise as the races in the US are to each other, so that shouldn' be a problem. I know Rockingham's a bit close to the British GP (three weeks after it), but the US GP's the same amount after the 500 next year, so hopefully both countries' motorsport fraternities should have time to get themselves
back together and prepare for another major race in that space of time.

Overall, I think this revised calender looks much better than the original.

Revised calender:

Mar Miami: Homestead-Miami
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...esteadOval.html
Mar Arizona: Phoenix
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...hoenixOval.html
Apr Canada: Sanair
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Canada/qu/SanairOval.html
Apr Illinois: Gateway
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...atewayOval.html
May Indiana: Indianapolis
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...anapolisMS.html
Jun, Brazil: Jacarepaguá
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Brazil/RioOval.html
Jun South Africa: Welkom
http://www.racingcircuits.net/South...WelkomOval.html
Jul Germany: Lausitzring
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Germa....ngOval.htmlAug
Jul Sweden: Viking
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Swede...orParkOval.html
Jul United Kingdom: Rockingham
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...inghamOval.html
Aug Japan: Motegi
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Japan/MotegiOval.html
Aug Tennessee: Nashville
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...erspeedway.html
Sep Pennsylvania: Nazareth
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...a/Nazareth.html
Sep Colorado: Pikes Peak
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite.../PikesPeak.html
Oct California: Fontana
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...ca/Fontana.html
Oct Texas: Fort Worth
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...tWorthOval.html

Leftovers:

Kansas: Kansas
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite.../ks/Kansas.html
Michigan: Michigan
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...MichiganIS.html
Kentucky: Kentucky
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...kySpeedway.html
Illinois: Chicagoland
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...il/Route66.html
Virginia: Richmond
http://www.racingcircuits.net/Unite...a/Richmond.html

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Old 11 Nov 2003, 20:46 (Ref:780262)   #10
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you guys need to stop talking about racin out of the country and stick to tonys vision about being an all american oval series
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Well I wouldn't be opposed to the IRL expanding their horizons, but wouldn't want that to take place until the series has more teams, manufacturer involvement and more high profile sponsors. Obviously Japan works as we have Toyota and Honda involved. Rockingham and Lausitzring may be viable in the future.

As for an all American series jklein, do you mean venue wise, or are you referring to manufacturers and drivers also? Either view seems very limited to me. The more the merrier. And just to be clear, if it makes sense on the bottom line, Tony George will do it.
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Actually if IRL became a World oval series, i think its existance might be reasonable, it isn't an all american series anyway, with the introduction of motegi, and so many non USAC, or USA drivers.
I like the IRL world Tour, and it would be so different and interesting than an 'open wheel nascar'
good stuff.
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you guys need to stop talking about racin out of the country and stick to tonys vision about being an all american oval series
Because the top 10 from Indy totaly represents the cream of USA drivers.
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Errr- i think the Viking- Raceway is not built...
And what about Mexico City? I don't think the oval-course is not raceable at the moment..

Hey, btw, where is the Monza-Oval in your list?
The baseball stadium is only in the inside of the Peraltada curve, but the oval track remains intact (I saw this when I walked the track just before the Champ Car event), so the oval in Mexico could be used. (Well, obviously it would need a repair because it is in a very bad condition)
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I'd like to see an IRL race around Rockingham, UK and Eurospeedway, since 4 of the drivers are brits and i'd definetly go to see the IRL if there was a race at Rockingham.
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