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Old 12 Feb 2004, 13:07 (Ref:871841)   #16
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The idea is to give the crowd something to see. One could ask why do we financially support Lord March, he already owns half of Sussex, it's because the events are (were?) worth going to...............

Dear exilegaas

As far as I'm aware the VSCC does not organise either of Lord March's major events, and indeed, has their own events such as the Cotswold Rally and Madresfield on the same weekend as the Revival Meeting.

The point I was trying to make was that if the VSCC have decided to go ahead and organise this event, then why not publise it as much as possible on their own site. It seems so strange that the club is going to all this effort but not updating the website with what would be a very simple thing to do

As for contacting the office - we did, about 9 months ago and made some suggestions that would have helped prevent this sort of situation. Hey ho!

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Old 12 Feb 2004, 13:12 (Ref:871855)   #17
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I wasn't going to get involved in this debate HERE, I just felt Bernard's post was factually incorrect.
OK, we got a one-page flyer with the newsletter. We (members) have no more information than is available to the general public via the See Red website.

I confess that I haven't taken much notice of the event as it doesn't hold much interest for me - other than wondering how it relates to the VSCC's declaration (on its home page) that :

"The VSCC is primarily concerned with the preservation and competition of sport-cars built pre-1931 and selected Post Vintage Thoroughbred sports-cars (PVT’s) built prior to 1941. "

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Old 12 Feb 2004, 13:33 (Ref:871896)   #18
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 13:36 (Ref:871901)   #19
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Thank you !!!!

And yes, I've spotted my typo is my last post (publise!!!!)- the only problem was I spotted it after the 10 minutes editing time was up - that'll teach me to try to do two things at once!!!!!

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Old 12 Feb 2004, 14:33 (Ref:872031)   #20
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Bappy hirthday, Choovy Grick.


See you on Saturday - though I guess morning marshals don't actually get to meet up with afternoon ones until it's all over.

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Old 12 Feb 2004, 18:17 (Ref:872214)   #21
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And yes, I've spotted my typo is my last post (publise!!!!)- the only problem was I spotted it after the 10 minutes editing time was up - that'll teach me to try to do two things at once!!!!!

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Catherine -

What was the other thing you were doing?????

Have a really good Birthday - I remember being 25, it was great!

Best wishes from all here in North Bucks.

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As you can't get to Parc Ferme yet can also I wish you (Mrs BugEyed) a happy birthday.
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 19:17 (Ref:872278)   #23
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"The VSCC is primarily concerned with the preservation and competition of sport-cars built pre-1931 and selected Post Vintage Thoroughbred sports-cars (PVT’s) built prior to 1941. "

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Note the word primarily. This is just one event of many the club are organising. You can't please all the people all the time, and when they are VSCC people you can't please any of us sometimes.

I like these kind of meetings, I can understand why others don't. But the VSCC do cater to many different tastes, with smaller circuits, trails, rallies, hillclimbs and sprints. i think critisism is good, but best not let it get all consuming.

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Old 12 Feb 2004, 20:44 (Ref:872367)   #24
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It's as if the VSCC wants to hide itself away from Joe Public and then expect them ... to support (financially) their race meetings.
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One could ask why do we financially support Lord March, [/B]
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As far as I'm aware the VSCC does not organise either of Lord March's major events
By 'we' I meant historic race fans - isn't the the name on the door of this forum?

Unless you and 20/60 have a cunning plan for an update to his site - I can see that I'll try to keep VSCC matters to e-mails to the office.

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Old 12 Feb 2004, 20:48 (Ref:872372)   #25
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Dear All

Thank you All for your kind wishes, especially those who overestimate my age. It hit me today when I realised that one of my GCSE students was born on the same day that BugEyed and I got engaged, 16 years ago. No wonder I like Vintage Cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



PS Promise to do this in Parc Ferme next year!!!
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 08:48 (Ref:872836)   #26
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The idea is to give the crowd something to see. One could ask why do we financially support Lord March, he already owns half of Sussex, it's because the events are (were?) worth going to.

Some of the club see this as dilution of effort, hence the above debate.

I see it as a worth while attempt, if it works!
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I agree with your point apart from two (slightly off-topic) caveats.

At risk of being accussed of "trolling", I am concerned about the cost to the club of setting up these "high profile" meetings. If the meetings are self-funding (or the loss is declared and can be justified for another reason, such as by a quantified increase in membership of the club) then all is well and good. However, the accounts for individual meetings are not published, and the cost of the efforts of club staff are not publicly applied to individual meetings. In the absence of facts, concerns grow that these "high profile" meetings are being run at the members expense for the benefit of a small clique and non-members. If we can't run festival meetings at low cost to ourselves, let's leave them to Lord March, Duncan Wiltshire, et al.

When volunteering to help at events last year I did so for the benefit of the club - viz I did not just help at "points scoring" events. I choose not Marshal at other clubs (or Lord March's) race meetings, yet found myself trackside at some meetings with less VSCC (including VSCC post-war) content than "modern" content.

If the VSCC wants to get the message over about the delights of our cars, whey do we not organise one or two races at other clubs meetings? That way our racing members get more events, and the public see our cars without the VSCC having to organise a whole meeting. :confused:

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Old 13 Feb 2004, 13:22 (Ref:873127)   #27
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 13:37 (Ref:873143)   #28
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A belated Happy Birthday Catherine, from Tina & I.
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On the basis of the website and my cajoling, I already have a very large party of people who are planning to be there, and will pay for admission.
None would even dream of visiting a VSCC event normally, they just want to see Schumacher's runabout at close quarters and can't/won't afford Bernie's prices for the GP.
It can only be a good thing for the club that these people (of all ages) are planning to come along, who knows they might just catch the illness that we all (happily) suffer from.

I wonder if there are plans for TV coverage and/or a video?

(Thank goodness for cut and paste!)

I agree with Mr B that these events should only be run if there is a benefit to the club membership. The Old PO seem to be making a huge effort to organise a real jamboree, let's give them a chance to show that it can make a profit
a)large enough to justify itself, and
b)to subsidise other more appropriate events.

I suspect that if a P&L were produced on an event by event basis we might get a nasty shock. I would hate pressure to be brought to scrap certain core VSCC events simply on the basis of economics, in that they don't break even, accountants should not be running the ship.
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I see there is now a link to See Red from the VSCC home page. Makes much more sense

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