BTC-Touring v Super Touring

[Les]

50/50 so far - seems to be overtaking versus looks - I'll go for overtaking every time.

[touringlegend]

The biggest hurdle I think everyone needs to get over is trying to forget the past, all the good times of Super Touring, and the so called "big names" we had in the 90's.

How many people had heard of the likes of Alain Menu, Rickard Rydell et al 10 years ago? Probably not an awful lot which is why you get people wondering who the likes Colin Turkington and Paul O'Neill are nowadays - these are our new big names.

[steve bang]

Punting in racing is either good or bad , depends if you're watching or paying the repair bills.

[Alfa Fan]

People say we need big names but in a few years we will! Gavin Pyper, 23 Tom Ferrier, 20 Gordon Shedden, 24 Tom Chilton, 17 Gareth Howell, 21, Colin Turkington, 20 to name a few and they are all under 24!

[garry]

I would like to know how many of you who think rubbing is racing are actual racers instead of spectators.
I believe that a lot of people go to watch racing to see the odd bit of contact but if you have to make contact with someone to get by then you do not deserve to overtake.
I beleive that I am a hard racer but I do not ever remeber having to make contact to get by.
In the Formula Saloon Car Championship we have good hard and fair racing and although contact is soemtimes inevitable it is very rarely deliberate. It is possible for Super Tourers to race and overtake without making contact. We do not race just to put on a good show but it is a bonus if the spectators have enjoyed a good clean race as much as we did.
Contact is an unfortunate by-product of racing but it is definately not an important part.

[Alfa Fan]

Originally posted by garry
I would like to know how many of you who think rubbing is racing are actual racers instead of spectators.
I believe that a lot of people go to watch racing to see the odd bit of contact but if you have to make contact with someone to get by then you do not deserve to overtake.
I beleive that I am a hard racer but I do not ever remeber having to make contact to get by.
In the Formula Saloon Car Championship we have good hard and fair racing and although contact is soemtimes inevitable it is very rarely deliberate. It is possible for Super Tourers to race and overtake without making contact. We do not race just to put on a good show but it is a bonus if the spectators have enjoyed a good clean race as much as we did.
Contact is an unfortunate by-product of racing but it is definately not an important part.

I am not a racing driver(difficult when you are only 14!) but contact in racing is inevitable and accpetible. All the drivers give as good as they get. When unacceptable(in the eyes of TOCA) contact is made, penalties are enforced apon the relevent offending drivers. Which IMO is fair enough.

[Tim Harvey Fan]

Super Touring just because the field was larger and more diverse

[simon m]

I say BTC Touring because they sound more or less the same as the Super Tourers did. They do sound a <I> little </I> bit different but not too much. Plus they have far better racing and I think they they look better, and also the super tourers seem about twice as big as the BTC Production. Obviously they're not. Don't think I'm thick. But then again....

[O'Schumacher]

Super touring was great from 91-96, then the aerodynamics changed and overtaking became impossible. 2000 was the worst season ever.

[touringcarnut]

I have devised a BTCC formula:

30+ cars on a narrow circuit= contact.

Contact IS part of touring cars, if you don't want to see it, watch the F1 cars following each other, and hear James Allen getting excited when a car comes within 1/2 mile of another one.

The BTCC will always be about a bit of paint rubbing, a nudge here and push there, its when it goes beyond the limit that i get annoyed- and wrecks the other guy's race. e.g. some of the pushing in 2001 was right out of order.