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Old 6 Aug 2004, 11:09 (Ref:1058069)   #1
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TSR has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
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With CL now going to 888, can anybody tell me what and who are going to driving what next year. :confused:
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 11:24 (Ref:1058097)   #2
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Wait till after Oran Park, all should be revealed then
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 11:30 (Ref:1058098)   #3
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Are you going to OP GTR??
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 22:00 (Ref:1058830)   #4
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I will be there - I would like to catch up GTR
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 23:26 (Ref:1058895)   #6
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and around and around and around LOL
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 00:40 (Ref:1058938)   #7
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2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife
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4 Stone Brothers Racing Marcos Ambrose
5 Ford Performance Racing Paul Radisich
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7 RNR / Perkins Motorsport Alex Davison
8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell
9 Stone Brothers Racing Russell Ingall
10 Larkham Motorsport Jason Bargwanna
11 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Steven Richards
12 Brad Jones Racing Glenn Seton
(14) WPS Racing David Besnard
15 Kmart Racing Rick Kelly
16 PWR Racing Paul Weel
17 Dick Johnson Racing Steven Johnson
18 Dick Johnson Racing Warren Luff / Owen Kelly / David Brabham
20 Larkham Motorsport Mark Winterbottom
21 Brad Jones Racing Andrew Jones
22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly
23 Tasman Motorsport Fabian Coulthard
(24)Walkinshaw/Bright/Crennen Jason Bright
29 Sirromet Life Style Wine Paul Morris
31 Steve Ellery Racing Steve Ellery
33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Cameron McConville
34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Craig Baird
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44 Team Dynamik Simon Wills
45 Team Dynamik Neil McFadyen / Will Davison / Paul Stokell
48 WPS Racing Alex Yoong
50 PWR Racing Greg Murphy
51 Kmart Racing Garth Tander
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 00:45 (Ref:1058940)   #8
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8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell
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10 Larkham Motorsport Jason Bargwanna
11 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Steven Richards
12 Brad Jones Racing John Bowe
14 Konica/Smiths Trucks Alan Gurr
15 Kmart Racing Rick Kelly
16 PWR Racing Paul Weel
17 Dick Johnson Racing Steven Johnson
18 Dick Johnson Racing Owen Kelly
20 Larkham Motorsport Mark Winterbottom
021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird
21 Brad Jones Racing Brad Jones
22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly
23 Tasman Motorsport Fabian Coulthard
24 At the Pleasure of TEGA's resale plan TBA
29 Sirromet Life Style Wine Paul Morris
30 Steve Ellery Racing Dale Brede
31 Steve Ellery Racing Steve Ellery
33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Cameron McConville
34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Allan Simonsen
44 Team Dynamik Simon Wills
45 Team Dynamik Paul Stokell
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 01:33 (Ref:1058952)   #9
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Archer - I would be a bit disappointed if O.Kelly, Brabham, W.Davison, Stokell and Porter were all considered ahead of Dean Canto and even Jamie Whincup or Cameron McLean for that matter. Even Luff and Coulthard, but I guess we have to live with Dumbrell and apparently Besnard.
According to the interview in MN this week, McFadyen doesn't seem particularly interested in the V8s apart from a fall-back second option. Give it to someone who really wants it.
And Grumblebum - Dale Brede, Alan Gurr and Allan Simonsen????
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Perhaps its not by accident that Konica Minolta is considering not renewing its naming rights deal for that series next season....

The company previously funded SER, and indeed is a PMM backer... pool the cash from these events and you could probably almost run a main series car....
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 02:27 (Ref:1058968)   #11
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Interesting news there, GTRMagic. Mind you, so is the Brede to SuperCheap concept

Congratulance to our "new"(?) poster, Grumblebum....Craig Baird has extended the TKR driving contract for a further 2 years, according to word on the street in NZ.
Great news for TKR, especially given the recent sharpness of form. Bairdo is one of the under-rates of the Supercar Series.
I would bet you one of your arms that if all the Supercars were limited to a maximum 500 horsepower motor, Bairdo would be at the thick of it all much more consistently. He has proven quick in the wet, when we all know that horsepower is far less important.

Bairdo will not be at GRM next year...money doesn't seem to motivate him!
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Given the quality of car delivered by GRM to TKR last season, and the team and driver's public and private views on the standard of workmanship and performance, I cant really see Mr Baird rocking up to Glen Waverly each day for work.....
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It had me beat too, GTR.

Why would he want to do that?
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Interesting news there, GTRMagic. Mind you, so is the Brede to SuperCheap concept

Congratulance to our "new"(?) poster, Grumblebum....Craig Baird has extended the TKR driving contract for a further 2 years, according to word on the street in NZ.
Great news for TKR, especially given the recent sharpness of form. Bairdo is one of the under-rates of the Supercar Series.
I would bet you one of your arms that if all the Supercars were limited to a maximum 500 horsepower motor, Bairdo would be at the thick of it all much more consistently. He has proven quick in the wet, when we all know that horsepower is far less important.

Bairdo will not be at GRM next year...money doesn't seem to motivate him!
Totally fantastic news, Bairdo could obviously see the potential that is awakening at TKR. Top decision Craig, i owe you a payment will be made next month
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You mean the PMM/TKR joint venture?
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You mean the PMM/TKR joint venture?
Yeah right!
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Well it seems to be a complete joint-venture from the outside. Maybe from the Evo inside, things are different?
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The TKR car is ex-PMM, but prepared, engineered and engined (by Mr Burns) in isolation from the main PMM equipe.

While its true they share a pit boom, and some technical equipment as part of this share arrangement, to call it a JV might be pushing it a little....
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The TKR car is ex-PMM, but prepared, engineered and engined (by Mr Burns) in isolation from the main PMM equipe.

While its true they share a pit boom, and some technical equipment as part of this share arrangement, to call it a JV might be pushing it a little....
Thanks GTR, nice to see someone has some intelligence and doesn't put 2 and 2 together and come up with 48.5
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I am not sure its denial... the 2 teams dont test at the same track, dont share their cars at tests they may have, dont share an engine builder.. hell the TKR car still runs a VX engine...

Sure PMM supplies pitcrew that service the TKR car, and the Sirromet car, but you also see the TKR boys on Sirromet car stops too...

If the noise around the Konica/Smiths Trucks team for 2005 is correct, that is where any "JV" (hopefully not Jacques Villeneuve or Jos Verstappen ) may come to the fore....
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Perhaps you are right, GTR. Smith Trucks to step up in 2005.

Any news on Howard Racing doing the same?
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Any news on Howard Racing doing the same?
Mr Howard has the whole shebang for sale at the moment, just as it was at the end of last season as well....

It wouldnt surprise me to see this driver move to Carrera Cup (presuming it runs in 2005 and beyond) but I dont think a main series assault is on the radar here...
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