Will DC never win the WDC? - Page 2

Colin Mason · 6 Nov 2002, 13:34 (Ref:422955)

Thats complete rubbish. DC is one of the very few drivers who is willing to give MS some of his own medicine. Kimi is a very very good driver but never underestimate DC

**Bononi** · 6 Nov 2002, 13:45 (Ref:422965)

Welcome Colin Mason !

Another DC fan hunh ?

Have fun around, we have loads of TGF disciples and Anti-TGF hordes too...

Nicholas · 6 Nov 2002, 16:04 (Ref:423042)

DC is very underrated, my opinion anyway. He won't win the WDC but not many do, and I doubt Mclaren will make a comeback before he retires. They'll make a decnet car for Kimi when he's old enough

Mania · 6 Nov 2002, 23:57 (Ref:423404)

I never believed DC would win the title once Hakkinen blitzed him in 98 and 99. I think deep down even DC accepts that he had his chance and blew it. With Kimi already establishing himself in the team, DC will end up taking even more pain next season...which hopefully will be his last at Mclaren..opening the door for Jacques Villeneuve.

Maxmil · 7 Nov 2002, 00:53 (Ref:423430)

Most Unlikely! Kimi will continue to improve, but David's role in F1 history is doomed to be that of a good second driver on a good (maybe?) team.

Valve Bounce · 7 Nov 2002, 02:36 (Ref:423457)

Of course there is the slight possibility that DC might be getting old, and is slowing down as a result.

**Bononi** · 7 Nov 2002, 11:44 (Ref:423705)

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Originally posted by Valve Bounce
Of course there is the slight possibility that DC might be getting old, and is slowing down as a result.

Possibility ? I'm sure he's getting old !

f1manoz · 7 Nov 2002, 11:55 (Ref:423716)

EVERYONE gets old!!!

Super Tourer · 7 Nov 2002, 12:56 (Ref:423756)

You only need to look back at DC's career to see he will never be WDC. I believe his last championship win was back in British Formula Ford.

Winning championships in the lower formulae takes exactly the same skill's as it does in F1, in fact you could argue that these series are much more competitive than F1 and therefore take more skill to win.

DC's career has been one containing season's with some very good drives but watered dowm by too many weak performances. He only seems able to pull 2 or 4 stunning drives out per year.

On this basis, Pizzonia (F3 & FRen champ's), Kimi (FRen Champion) and JPM (F300 and Cart series wins) are the ones with good championship records.

Shoe-maker · 8 Nov 2002, 12:52 (Ref:424554)

After moving over for Hakkinen in Jerez 1997 and Melbourne 1998, DC was always going to be up against it. 2000 was his best chance but Hakkinen's summer revival put paid to it.

Mattracer · 9 Nov 2002, 11:50 (Ref:425058)

I'm not sure about Super Tourers statement that winning in F1 is easier than in lower formulae. It is a different discipline if anything and requires more political awareness and diplomacy to get what YOU want for YOURSELF. Schumacher has got this nailed. DC is a smooth, seasoned racer, much in the style of Damon Hill, Berger and Patrese. It is unfortunate he is often lacklustre when the car is not right, but that's what separates the Champions from the field. The best car on the grid has to be driven correctly, the way it "likes" to be driven, and DC was never consistently on top of Mika, and only harries Schumacher on occasion. It's the age-old question, how would he go in the Ferrari, when he was good in the '98'99 Mac but Hakkinen was great?

ASCII Man · 9 Nov 2002, 11:53 (Ref:425059)

I think he would do about the same as he did in '98/'99, mediocre considering the car he had available...

Total-F1 · 15 Nov 2002, 11:34 (Ref:429101)

I think people tend to gloss over the fact that when Mika was around McLaren was a one-car team whatever Ron Dennis said.

Every year seems to be a crunch year for DC - but this next season more than any other will be vital in prolonging his career. As long as Schumacher stays around he doesn't have much of a chance at the title - but to be perfectly honest, we haven't really got any good championship material at the moment.

Haug and the Mercedes massive seem to be talking down next years results for the McLaren team. I seem to recall BMW and Gerhard doing the same thing the first two seasons they came into the sport.

Don't be fooled.

Ann · 15 Nov 2002, 22:17 (Ref:429548)

imho DC should have been WDC already but luck has never been on his side - and whatever you may say, luck is a vital ingredient - you have to have it as well as talent in this business.

And can he do it in the future? If McLaren ever catch up with / overtake Ferrari then yes he can.

(And no I'm not biased. Well ok - maybe just a bit!)

Mr V · 16 Nov 2002, 00:35 (Ref:429655)

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Originally posted by Ann
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And can he do it in the future? If McLaren ever catch up with / overtake Ferrari then yes he can.

IF McLaren ever catch up/overtake Ferrari then DC will be playing second fiddle to Kimi.

SilentVoice81 · 16 Nov 2002, 09:25 (Ref:429788)

DC seems to have the talent but not the killer instinct all champions are made of... seems to coast a little bit too much IMHO. And yes, it appears Kimi is the future for McLaren... gotta like the feisty Finn.

Hmm, Fisi should take DC's seat soon... with a Newey chassis and a strong Mercedes engine (strong bias for the little Roman obviously...)

Valve Bounce · 16 Nov 2002, 11:55 (Ref:429851)

I was just thinking: suppose Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and Renault are all equal in terms of capability - in such a scenario, I honestly think that DC would be capable of winning just once next year if luck was on his side. So with the way things are at Ferrari and Bridgestone, I find it very difficult to see DC on the top step next year at all. This is just my personal assessment.

Miss Hardt · 18 Nov 2002, 23:00 (Ref:431795)

It would be cool if he could. I'd love to see some change.

Airhead · 19 Nov 2002, 09:23 (Ref:432085)

David is the business, he has talent to burn, and so far has set about doing just that. Urinating it up against the wall in a car that does not deserve his bum in it's seat.

He is one of the few to take the rituous fight up to the evil empire. More power to his sword. Ron, you hear me?

Valve Bounce · 19 Nov 2002, 09:32 (Ref:432090)

AM, we are talking about DC here, not Ralf

On second thought, lets forget about Ralf, and concentrate on Kimi.

Airhead · 19 Nov 2002, 10:26 (Ref:432107)

If we were talking about Ralf it would have been a joke thread. Read the post.

**Bononi** · 19 Nov 2002, 11:34 (Ref:432136)

What's the difference, anyway ?

Both are with underpowered cars...

fousto · 19 Nov 2002, 11:50 (Ref:432146)

I kind of agree with Valve - If DC gets the car I think that about 3 or 4 cars will be equal. so it won't be a easy task for him. I think if the Pizzas get caught it will be by more than one team. You have 5 teams chasing the reds with the budget to build a winning car!!