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Old 8 Dec 2020, 16:23 (Ref:4021584)   #271
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He seemed to be going great guns 2013-15. Really mature, maximising his results. Not endangering the life of everyone else on track. The future looked, at worst, reasonable.

Then came the move to Haas to try and get into Ferrari through the backdoor. It didn't seem that good an idea at the time and hasn't proven to be five years on, the dream of receiving the Maranello call and hitting the F1 big time just too unrealistic.

There were attempts to stay relevant: a flamboyant donut and burnout in the middle of the pack in Spain 2018 set pulses racing. And who could ever forget his brilliant portrayal of 'cowed underling' in Netflix's brilliant fictional series Drive to Survive, audiences left spellbound at his portrayal of emotional struggle at the hands of perma-angry, abusive boss Guenther. But he was even upstaged in that as Haas found a barely credible business magnate for season 2 (this is where the show jumped the shark for me).

The whole Haas/Grosjean thing peaked in the first race really, Australia 2016. Since then he was probably looking back at the days when Mark Webber wanted to batter him in the paddock with rosy nostalgia.
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Old 9 Dec 2020, 10:17 (Ref:4021710)   #272
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He looked really good in the Haas in 2016, but since Magnussen came in, he seems to have struggled more and all that initial promise with the team seems to have disappeared.
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Old 9 Dec 2020, 11:49 (Ref:4021722)   #273
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Grosjean always seemed like a genuinely nice guy, too inconsistent to be considered by the front running teams but on a good day he was genuinely quick. His exit from F1 in a huge ball of fire seems strangely fitting - it's a very 'Grosjean' way to finish.
What next for the "1st lap nutcase"?
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Old 9 Dec 2020, 15:11 (Ref:4021750)   #274
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What next for the "1st lap nutcase"?

Who knows? Mazepin hasn't driven yet......
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Old 10 Dec 2020, 12:08 (Ref:4021938)   #275
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Still a long way to go in his career right now. But it gives us something to look forward to come next year with him in the Haas
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Old 10 Dec 2020, 12:25 (Ref:4021941)   #276
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Really?!
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Old 10 Dec 2020, 12:29 (Ref:4021943)   #277
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Well we donít know do we? Although he needs to realise F1 is no messing around, so he still has a lot to learn. Letís see if he can actually get any better
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Letís see if he can actually get any better
Are you referring to his driving ability or behaviour here?
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Well we donít know do we? Although he needs to realise F1 is no messing around, so he still has a lot to learn. Letís see if he can actually get any better
I was more surprised by your ďsomething to look forward toĒ comment!
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Old 11 Dec 2020, 10:44 (Ref:4022140)   #280
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He will be "the one you love to hate" at best.
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Old 11 Dec 2020, 11:37 (Ref:4022160)   #281
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It might make people start to like Stroll and Latifi more. They at least seem like decent people.
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Old 11 Dec 2020, 12:23 (Ref:4022169)   #282
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Hmm, erratic, rich kid, who would that remind me of?

Ah yes, Pastor Maldonado, currently I expect this bloke to exceed even Pastor's dizzying heights of irrationality.
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Old 11 Dec 2020, 21:26 (Ref:4022248)   #283
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At least Pastor had won the GP2 title and went on to win a GP, so yeah.
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