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Old 30 Aug 2012, 08:46 (Ref:3127268)   #1
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FPR unaffected by V8 ownership change

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Spor...ge_789642.html
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V8 Supercars team Ford Performance Racing will operate as normal despite owners Prodrive losing road-car arm Ford Performance Vehicles to the manufacturer.
Ford will assume full control of Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV) from Prodrive at the end of the year following recent poor sales, resulting in the redundancy of 32 FPV workers.
But in a short statement, Ford Performance Racing's (FPR) team principal Tim Edwards said the news won't affect the V8s team which, despite being owned by Prodrive, is run separate to FPV.
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Old 30 Aug 2012, 10:51 (Ref:3127315)   #2
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So... what chance the big 'Falcon' drawing on the side of the FPR cars goes the way of the dodo....?
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So... what chance the big 'Falcon' drawing on the side of the FPR cars goes the way of the dodo....?

How're they biting ?


What part of "...the news won't affect the V8s team..." didn't you appreciate?
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Old 30 Aug 2012, 12:20 (Ref:3127358)   #4
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How're they biting ?


What part of "...the news won't affect the V8s team..." didn't you appreciate?
FPR write every year that they are going to win the championship too, and thus far that's not come true.
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Old 30 Aug 2012, 23:01 (Ref:3127668)   #5
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FPR write every year that they are going to win the championship too, and thus far that's not come true.
people still buy AA
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Old 30 Aug 2012, 23:42 (Ref:3127680)   #6
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What is the deal between FPR and FPV? Do Prodrive own FPR outright or is it part owned with Ford? Are FPV and Ford now just a sponsor of the team?

Would be great for Prodrive to continue as a team not unlike Triple 8
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people still buy AA
And generate threads on what AA writes too.....
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Old 31 Aug 2012, 05:30 (Ref:3127744)   #8
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Really, the headline was enough to put me off this week, no Holden Ford beaters before the A9X apparently, hope someone lets Norm Beechey know.
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What part of "...the news won't affect the V8s team..." didn't you appreciate?
What this really means is, the team has a contract until 2013. After that who knows. Prodrive is a business, it runs race teams for profit. Whether FPR can stand alone without significant funding from Ford & FPV is a point to be proven.

I think they are going to have to actually start charging commercial rates and therefore not undercut other teams for sponsorships now...
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none, unless replaced with other Ford livery
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Old 30 Aug 2012, 22:15 (Ref:3127645)   #11
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any chance we can bring the discusion from the end is nigh into this thread?
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Old 7 Sep 2012, 10:38 (Ref:3132434)   #12
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Is FPR Doomed?

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With the connection to Ford Performance Vehicles now severed, Prodrive is free to chase other manufacturers to run Car of the Future from 2014 onwards. There has been plenty of talk about a fourth manufacturer entering the championship after its first year, but before last week's announcement, either Stone Brothers Racing or Dick Johnson Racing were the Ford teams being spoken of who might make the leap.
The article goes on to suggest that should prodrive not achieve manufacturer backing beyond 2013, that its not impossible that the whole operation could be sold/shuttered...
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The article goes on to suggest that should prodrive not achieve manufacturer backing beyond 2013, that its not impossible that the whole operation could be sold/shuttered...
It's a fairly naive article.

Mentions that Prodrive left the WRC to pursue 'other interests' whereas we all know that is far from the truth - Subaru left.

also mentions that Prodrive have been running Mini's on the WRC this year - again another mistruth in that it's clear that a) they have not done that, and that's because b) Prodrive failed to find the funding for the project and indeed annoyed the bosses in Munich so much they cut the ties.

Seems to have a very rose coloured view of the kids from Banbury....
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its really a question that could be asked about any team though.

Will HRt leave holden at the end of 2014(15 whenever the date is)

Whenever there is a life on a contract, then there is risk at the end.

Of course switching brands when there is a reasonable deal available from the current brand carries some risk of losing the support base
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Yes, and of course all but two teams at the moment survive quite happily without having a road car deal with the manufacturer. T8 seemed to manage reasonably well...
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Yes, and of course all but two teams at the moment survive quite happily without having a road car deal with the manufacturer. T8 seemed to manage reasonably well...
888 doesnt need a road car deal... they sell more race cars than FPV sells road cars anyway
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Yes, and of course all but two teams at the moment survive quite happily without having a road car deal with the manufacturer. T8 seemed to manage reasonably well...
Could you please define "quite happily"?
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Could you please define "quite happily"?
T8 = quite happy - unaligned with a manufacturer in a road car enhancement deal

HRT = quite unhappy - aligned with a manufacturer in a road car enhancement deal
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Well 888 is still factory backed which I thought was the point you were trying to make.

Also if we're talking road car enhancement deals.

How are DJR going?

Or what about Wayne Gardiner Racing?
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So... Should FPR be nervous?

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So... Should FPR be nervous?

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I think they already are
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So... Should FPR be nervous?

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No, different market, different demographics. I'm sure Ford Europe are not currently fending off a hail of abuse from Ford fans the way Ford Australia would be if they pulled out of motorsport in Australia.

Ford is committed to FPR for next year and anything could happen in the next 12 months.

Ford Performance Vehicles will be 100% owned by Ford, so there is more incentive for them to get some rub off for that.

Ford could have easily closed FPV but they obviously see there's still a demand for performance vehicles and want to protect that passion.

Good times ahead.
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Ford could have easily closed FPV but they obviously see there's still a demand for performance vehicles and want to protect that passion.

Good times ahead.
I certainly hope so, am waiting (and maybe saving) for them to realease the last GT-HO, wouldn't that be an awesome way to bow out.
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No, different market, different demographics. I'm sure Ford Europe are not currently fending off a hail of abuse from Ford fans the way Ford Australia would be if they pulled out of motorsport in Australia.
Non-Australians are too polite and respectful for that sort of caper.
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