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18 Nov 2018, 21:20 (Ref:3864041) | #26 | |
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Nissan GTR was beaten in one race (forgot what year) Lakeside by Tony Longhurst in the M3 which was not allowed to run in it's full spec the Falcon & Commodore had a lot of freedoms and could still not match the M3
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18 Nov 2018, 22:37 (Ref:3864049) | #27 | |
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Toyota TS050 Hybrid wins the 86th 24 Hours of Le Mans
Fixed that for you While I don't think it is optimal for sportscars to be carrying hundreds of kilograms of batteries, the BMW i8, Porsche 918 and Honda NSX are the start of hybrid sportscars, the Porsche 911 will soon be going hybrid too, and eventually you'd expect other sportscars to follow hybrid trends (even USA's own Ford GT, Mustang, Dodge Viper, Corvette and Camaro?)... Arguably the electric motors have advantages for torque vectoring (like the NSX's front axle) and torque fill (like the NSX's rear axle). Electric motors may also find their way onto the turbocharger shaft (like in F1) as a kind of anti-lag for pre-spooling on the one hand and energy recovery on the other hand. Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 18 Nov 2018 at 22:43. |
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The next step is a hybrid sportscar where the electric motors ALWAYS drive the wheels and the engine is exclusively an electricity generator(which, to be frank, is how ALL hybrids should work) - people who were blown away by the 918 are going to have their heads explode once someone does that. |
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The GTR was the dominant car of '91 and '92, but now where near as dominant as the Sierra's were in '88 and '89. The '91, '92 & '93 M3 spec was well above what was allowed under Group A rules, but did fall sort of full DTM spec.. |
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Different times that we can't judge by today's standards. it may surprise a lot of people that Nissan had a paddock full of GTR's with grass growing up around the door handles that no one wanted to buy at any price.
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Because at $100k when interest rates were 17% the only people that could afford them were drug dealers...
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As in the M3 was slightly less illegal than the Sierra most of the time. |
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