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Old 26 Oct 2010, 09:49 (Ref:2780675)   #1
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your favourite era of racing..

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Historic racing today? being not a driver, but still involved, probably as such, an opinion dose not realy count, got to be any Goodwood Revival, though the Christies/Coys were also memorable. Top race's ever involved? it has to be the Targa Florio, age does have it's priviledges, and the generation's sinced it ceased have been denied a spectical and ambiance second to none, followed closely by Spa 1000kms, Spa as it was and should still be.

this got me thinking.... whilst I sadly cannot claim to have seen Targa Florio in period I do have great memories as a child watching silouettes racing at Silverstone in what was probably the early/mid 70's. The Skoda and Beetle where the two cars to stick in my mind most.
Interestingly I used to go to Silverstone a lot in the 60's as well but have no memory of the racing so I can only assume it was not as exciting to a young lad (although to redeem myself I do recall frequently being scared witless in a Lotus Cortina a friend of my mother's drove!!)
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 10:02 (Ref:2780684)   #2
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Interesting idea, Simon, but if this develops, I'll have to send it to the Motorsport History forum.

I suppose for me, though, the truth is that I have always watched a lot of Historic Racing going back to the Griffiths formula back in the 60's. I have, of course, also been (and still go) to a fair few contemporary race meetings, and one of my favourites was the 1971 Martini International; quite appropriate given the discussion regarding the new HSCC 2 litre series. In those days it was run by AMOC, the only marque club allowed to run an International race.
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 10:56 (Ref:2780700)   #3
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Well I wasn't old enough to actually be around for the "good stuff" () so I can only say what has captured my imagination. What I am drawn to differs from racing type to type and who was around in those classes at the time:

F1 - late 1970s to early 1980s (to be fair, I do remember this era)
GT - 1960s
Sports Cars - early to mid 1970s

Who knows why? Apart from F1 in the 1970s and 1980s where I consciously started to absorb motorsport I only have articles, DVDs and documentaries to go on (eg Speed Merchants on DVD giving a rough account of what it was like in Sports Car racing in the 1970s for instance)
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 11:05 (Ref:2780705)   #4
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The 80's Group A Touring car Days Proper Saloon racing at its best.
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 11:33 (Ref:2780715)   #5
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Jason,

I think you have a point but I'd go from 1970 to 1986, to bring in the Group 2 touring cars as well.

Then the Group 5 sports protos through to Group C from the same period. That would then allow the Porsche 935 and 956 into the mix.

As to Formula 1 from 1977 to 1985 it was sheer development all the way, with outlandish turbo charged beasts starting with the Renault and finishing with the Hondas.
So on balnce for many reasons the period from 1970 to 1985 was an outstanding era of motorsport.
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 16:30 (Ref:2780819)   #6
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Yep,70s and 80s were the best years for all racing. More of a 'gentlemanly' approach plus I think that the drivers tried harder,these days its often the case whereas once you have gotten past someone,they seem to give up.
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 20:50 (Ref:2780894)   #7
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Often I think the ers you are drawn to is more to do with an event or a social situation you found yourself in at the time - rather tlike a piece of music.

For me F1 would have to be late 1970's to late 1980's/early 1990. My best mate's dad was chief flag at Brands and my introduction to F1 was sitting on the infield of Paddock at Brands in his SD1 V8 in pouring rain. I was hooked from then on.

Touring cars - the times when Capris were battling it with Vitesses and then the Cossies took over...only to be beaten by the M3's

Sports cars and GT's - has to be late 1950's to late 1960's respectively. The cars really were the stars and raced by some real characters
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 21:10 (Ref:2780905)   #8
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I think late 60s/ early 70s for F1, as the cars looked different, and reshaped every year, and there were so many potential winners. Which allows 917s and 512s in, plus minis, Lotus Cortinas, Mustangs, Galaxies, etc, in saloons.

I would LOVE to go back to Donington 1938 though... WOW!
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 22:09 (Ref:2780925)   #9
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60s saloon cars were great to watch in period. More power than handling before they started to get "trick" !
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Old 26 Oct 2010, 22:29 (Ref:2780931)   #10
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I would LOVE to go back to Donington 1938 though... WOW!
Good call!!
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Old 28 Oct 2010, 12:47 (Ref:2781632)   #11
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Weaned on a staple diet of VSCC, JDC and AMOC racing/hillclimbing I have good memories of the Lloyds and Scottish Historic Championship - the late Bruce Halford, Gerry Marshall and Hon Patrick Lindsay + Neil Corner, Willie Green, Richard Bond, Simon Phillips and Michael Bowler in a plethora of 250F's, Dino's and Aston Martin DBR4's.

I agree - Donington in '38 must have been great, but I think some of the sportscar racing in the late 50's and mid '60's must have been exciting....

Group A saloons and the ETCC with the XJS's, 550 bhp Sierra's and the sonorous RX7's was good too.

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60's for me, what Gordon said applied to most production based cars

although anything up to 70's has an appeal when it was run what yer brung which was largely a std car. massive appeal on all levels, and something more people can relate to.
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Hi, Super/Special saloons , (That was what was racing at Oulton in mid 70's), 935's
etc,BTCC with Sierra Cosworths (followed round most of the circuits as all close to Oxford).
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Jason,

I think you have a point but I'd go from 1970 to 1986, to bring in the Group 2 touring cars as well.

Then the Group 5 sports protos through to Group C from the same period. That would then allow the Porsche 935 and 956 into the mix.

As to Formula 1 from 1977 to 1985 it was sheer development all the way, with outlandish turbo charged beasts starting with the Renault and finishing with the Hondas.
So on balnce for many reasons the period from 1970 to 1985 was an outstanding era of motorsport.
I agree with Peter 100%.

You took the words right out of my errmm keyboard(?)

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I loved the Cossie, but there was too many of them and they helped to water down the BTCC.
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Old 1 Nov 2010, 15:15 (Ref:2783485)   #15
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For me as well 68 to 85,
1 litre F3, 1.6 & 2 litre F2 & F3 all had a good mix of chassis & engines.
Club level single seaters were alway good to watch, & F1 was interesting.

Great Saloon & Sports car racing at both club & international level.


Then it all went one make, saloons, single seaters, & watching the grass grow became more interesting.
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I missed F3 and F2. In those years we had Derek Warwick, Nelson Piquet, Mansell, Brundle and of course Senna in F3. Not to mention in F2 we had Fabi, Cheever, Warwick (again), Henton, the Ralt chassis against the Marches, Rad dougall et al.
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Guess my experience is each era is worse than the previous one,as the spectator is moved further from the action.So the first one I encountered in the 50s must be my favourite!
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