2009 Team/Driver/Sponsor Movements! (merged x6)

[sizzle]

Man I want some of what your on!!!!!

[Pro Racer]

isn't VESA putting the 30th licence up for grabs again if so could a Howard or a Loadsman make the step up or maybe a D'Alberto or PCR expanding?

Originally Posted by panel damage
I think you'll be suprised

can you elaborate, if not in here could you PM me please?

if Murph did return to WP (which dosn't make sense as his oppertunities for ownership with Tasman after driving, his FV8 team is run using Tasman gear and his resaults don't scream pick me) it wouldn't be HRT i wouldn't be surprised to see Rick move to HRT given how well him and GT were together at the Dealer Team for a couple of years. what ever Murph does i hope he dosn't go to Ford.

[Racenut7]

It could end up like this. But every unlikely.

#1 - 2008 Champion.

HSV Dealer Team (Walkinshaw Performance)
#2 - KEL - Mobil 1/HSV/Holden - Mark Skaife - VE Commodore
#16 - KEL - Autobarn/HSV/Holden - Paul Dumbrell - VE Commodore

Toll Holden Racing Team (Walkinshaw Performance)
#15 - SKA - Toll/Mobil1/Holden - Rick Kelly - VE Commodore
#50 - SKA - Toll/Mobil1/Holden - Garth Tander - VE Commodore

Sprint Gas Racing (Harrop Engineering)
#3 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Jason Richards - VE Commodore
#51 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Greg Murphy - VE Commodore

Stone Brothers Racing (Prodrive/SBRE)
#4 - SBR - Jel-Wen/Ford/Roland - Will Davison - FG Falcon
#9 - SBR - SP Tools/Ford/Roland - Shane Van Gisbergan - FG Falcon

Ford Performance Racing (Prodrive/SBRE)
#5 - PRO - Orrcon/L&H/Castrol/Ford - Mark Winterbottom - FG Falcon
#6 - PRO - Castrol/L&H/Ford/Orrcon - Steven Richards - FG Falcon
#8 - FDT - Ford/L&H/Orrcon/Castrol - James Courtney - FG Falcon

Jack Daniels Racing (Perkins Engineering)
#7 - PER - Jack Daniels/Mack Trucks - Todd Kelly - VE Commodore
#11 - PER - Jack Daniels/Mack Trucks - Shane Price - VE Commodore

Brad Jones Racing (Walkinshaw Performance)
#12 - BJR - BOC/WOW/Summit - Andrew Jones - VE Commodore
#14 - BJR - WOW/BOC/Summit - Cameron McConville - VE Commodore

Jim Beam Racing (DJR/888)
#17 - DJR - Jim Beam/Coca-Cola/Shell - Steven Johnson - FG Falcon
#18 - DJR - Jim Beam/Coca-Cola/Shell - Dean Canto - FG Falcon

Britek Motorsport (Britek)
#25 - BRI - Fujitsu/CAT/Penrite - Jason Bright - FG Falcon
#26 - BRI - IRWIN/Fisher & Paykel/Penrite - Marcus Marshall - FG Falcon

Garry Roger Motorsport (GRM/Walkinshaw)
#33 - GRM - Valvoline/Cummins/Auslec - Lee Holdsworth - VE Commodore
#34 - GRM - Valvoline/Cummins/Auslec - Michael Caruso - VE Commodore

SuperCheap Auto Racing (PMM)
#39 - PMM - SuperCheap Auto/Sirromet/Castrol - Russell Ingall - VE Commodore
#67 - PMM - SuperCheap Auto/Sirromet/Castrol - Paul Morris - VE Commodore

Rod Nash Racing (Walkinshaw Performance)
#55 - Bottle-O/Bellmont/GMAC - Tony D'Alberto - VE Commodore
#54 - Tint-A-Car/GMAC - Steve Owen - VE Commodore

Team Vodafone (888/888)
#88 - 888 - Vodafone/Nokia/Komatsu - Jamie Whincup - FG Falcon
#888 - 888 - Vodafone/Nokia/Komatsu - Craig Lowndes - FG Falcon

Team Kiwi Racing (888/888)
#021 - TKR - Makita/Glenfords/Doric - Chris Pither - FG Falcon

Glennfords Racing (888/888)
#21 - PCR - Glenfords/Doric/Makita - Alex Davison- FG Falcon
#111 - PCR - Glenfords/Doric/Makita - Fabian Coulthard - FG Falcon

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

You mean now or in '09?

According to AA/MN, Ford shall provide each team running a Ford product that are not directly contracted (i.e. 888, DJR, Britek, PCR, FRSR) the equivalent of $100k for each new FG chassis run in the '09 main game. The $100k is alleged to be made of an upfront payment of $50k plus parts equivalent to the balance.

Similarly, those teams with drive cars provided by Ford will allegedly remain in place. So for example, 888's drivers each have Ford cars allocated to them, and this will continue.

Ford's requirement for the '09 funding of the non-contracted teams is allegedly not contingent on receiving space on the windscreen as has happened this (and in past) seasons.

Meantime, the 2 contracted teams, are presumably enjoying a significant level of Ford largesse beyond their current level.

The tales around SBR were that Ford were supplying somewhere around $1m per car to that squad... whether in kind, in parts, in financial support for SBRE or similar...

... while FPR is rumoured to be absorbing $6m a season of Ford's funds, up until this season, when it fell to $5m per season (or $2.5m per car)

If these 4 cars are now "Factory" Fords, presumably the Ford dollars on a per car basis would be rebalanced to be the same

Presuming any of this actually happened

Looking to 2009 GTR !!

Are the Ford Dealers really kicking any $s in, FPV kicking in?

Ford Credit is the factory, it hasnt been sold has it?

Is Lowndes the only driver still on the factory payroll in 2009, or is Courtneys contract still current too?

[cavvy]

[QUOTE=Racenut7]It could end up like this. But every unlikely.

Sprint Gas Racing (Harrop Engineering)
#3 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Jason Richards - VE Commodore
#51 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Greg Murphy - VE Commodore

QUOTE]

Didnt Ron leave the building - or was it Tasman that left the Harrop building?

[GTRMagic]

How would Ford dealers be travelling about now, with their headline car out of the top 3 vehicles sold, and operating below last years' levels?

If there is a "Dealer Team" it may just be a branding exercise, although AA's Mr Fogarty reckons he can guarantee it wont be called that brand anyway

Ford Credit's deal is with FPR isnt it? For a multi year agreement. So that brand may continue with Mr Winterbottom's #5 (or is that #1?) car next season. Even if there is a sale, presumably if there is a contract in place, it should be honoured, or recompensed in other ways.

Unless I have missed something, Mr Courtney and Mr Lowndes are both Ford-factory supported drivers in season 2009. Similarly, it appears both personal deals expire at the end of the 2009 season... so it shall be interesting to see what happens after that... not even Marcos Ambrose is on a Ford deal at the moment....

[sizzle]

[quote=cavvy]

Originally Posted by Racenut7

It could end up like this. But every unlikely.

Sprint Gas Racing (Harrop Engineering)
#3 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Jason Richards - VE Commodore
#51 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Greg Murphy - VE Commodore

QUOTE]

Didnt Ron leave the building - or was it Tasman that left the Harrop building?

Take your pick, either party would say you were right!

[Silencer]

I'd like to see Morris **** off and maybe Skaife or Murph slot into the second PMM car

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by Silencer

I'd like to see Morris **** off and maybe Skaife or Murph slot into the second PMM car

Why he owns the show, isn't that far off, at least he doesn't come last. He can do as he likes

[davester]

Originally Posted by Silencer

I'd like to see Morris **** off and maybe Skaife or Murph slot into the second PMM car

Why would Morris want to see his car finish further down the back of the grid?

[billy bigtime]

Originally Posted by sizzle

Why he owns the show, isn't that far off, at least he doesn't come last. He can do as he likes

He doesn't own the show, only part of it.

[Pro Racer]

Skaifey owns the licences nothing else, ohh maybe the toilet paper in the ****ters at Clayton.

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by billy bigtime

He doesn't own the show, only part of it.

Morris I was referring to!

[billy bigtime]

Originally Posted by sizzle

Morris I was referring to!

My apologies.

[Racenut7]

More like this

Toll Holden Racing Team (Walkinshaw Performance/Walkinshaw performance)
#2 - SKA - Toll/Mobil1/Holden - Mark Skaife - VE Commodore
#16 - SKA - Toll/Mobil1/Holden - Garth Tander - VE Commodore

Sprint Gas Racing (Tasman Motorsport/Tasman Motorsport)
#3 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Jason Richards - VE Commodore
#23 - TMS - Sprint Gas/Fuchs/Powerbuilt - Dale Wood - VE Commodore

Stone Brothers Racing (SBR/SBR)
#4 - SBR - Jeld - Wen/Ford/Roland - Will Davison - FG Falcon
#9 - SBR - SP Tools/Ford/Roland - Shane Van Gisbergen - FG Falcon

Ford Performance Racing (FPR/SBR)
#5 - PRO - Orrcon/L&H/FPV - Mark Winterbottom - FG Falcon
#6 - PRO - Castrol/L&H/FPV - Steven Richards - FG Falcon
#8 - MOR - Ford Dealers/L&H/FPV - James Courtney - FG Falcon

Jack Daniels Racing (Perkins Engineering/Perkins Engineering)
#7 - PER - Jack Daniels/Mack/AutoBarn - Todd Kelly - VE Commodore
#11 - PER - Jack Daniels/Mack/AutoBarn - Paul Dumbrell - VE Commodore

Brad Jones Racing (Walkinshaw Performance/Walkinshaw Performance)
#12 - BJR - BOC/Summit/WOW - Andrew Jones - VE Commodore
#14 - BJR - WOW/Summit/BOC - Cameron McConville - VE Commodore

HSV Dealer Team (Walkinshaw Performance/Walkinshaw Performance)
#15 - KEL - HSV/Mobil1/NEC - Rick Kelly - VE Commodore
#51 - KEL - HSV/Mobil1/NEC - Greg Murphy - VE Commodore

Jim Beam Racing (DJR/DJR)
#17 - DJR - Jim Beam/Coca-Cola/Shell - Steven Johnson - FG Falcon
#18 - DJR - Jim Beam/Coca-Cola/Shell - Steve Owen - FG Falcon

Britek Motorsport (Britek/Britek)
#25 - BRI - Fujitsu/CAT/Penrite - Jason Bright - FG Falcon
#26 - BRI - IRWIN/Fisher & Paykel/Penrite - Marcus Marshall - FG Falcon

Garry Roger Motorsport (GRM/Walkinshaw Performance)
#33 - GRM - Valvoline/Cummins/Auslec - Lee Holdsworth - VE Commodore
#34 - GRM - Valvoline/Cummins/Auslec - Micheal Caruso - VE Commodore

SuperCheap Auto Racing (PMM/PMM)
#39 - PMM - SuperCheap Auto/Castrol - Russell Ingall - VE Commodore
#69 - PMM - SuperCheap Auto/Castrol - Paull Morris - VE Commodore

Tony D'Alberto Racing (Walkinshaw Performance/Walkinshaw Performance)
#54 - TDR - On-Time/Purple Pig/GMAC - David Reynolds - VE Commodore
#55 - RNR - Bottle-o/Bellmont/GMAC - Tony D'Alberto - VE Commodore

Team Vodafone (888/DJR)
#88 - 888 - Vodafone/Nokia/Komatsu - Jamie Whincup - FG Falcon
#888 - 888 - Vodafone/Nokia/Komatsu - Craig Lowndes - FG Falcon

Team Kiwi Racing (888/TKR)
#021 - TKR - Makita/3M/BNT - Kayne Scott - BF Falcon

Glenfords Racing
#21 - PCR - Glenfords/Doric/cowdroy - Alex Davsion - BF Falcon
#111 - PCR - Glenfords/Doric/cowdroy - Fabian Coulthard - BF Falcon

[GTRMagic]

I am curious as to why these lists keep showing a second car for PCR... there has been zero noise in that direction, certainly anyone who followed the discussions with Mr Cruickshank himself in V8X would be aware that the team seems to prefer to use its existing BF in the development series until the budget (i.e. $3m+) can be found.

What might be interesting to understand is what chassis go where in the Happy Tom used car lot... with new cars in the HSVDT and HRT garages this year, there are spares... will RNR & BJR trade up, or keep this year's units?

[cavvy]

What is the go with the two Hagemeyer brands - Auslec and L&H?

Has anything been announced for 2009 or is it just a series of guesses?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by cavvy

What is the go with the two Hagemeyer brands - Auslec and L&H?

Has anything been announced for 2009 or is it just a series of guesses?

It was a multi year deal wasnt it, when announced at the start of the season?

It wouldnt be a surprise to see that brand all over the new "Ford Dealer Team" or whatever it is called... keeps the $$ in the FPR family of course.. and there are plenty of brands in the Hagemeyer stable besides those two, real consumer brands like Smeg, Blanco, JVC, Polaroid, Casio and former V8 sponsor Rexel is the parent....

[cavvy]

Change of ownership for Hagemeyer in Aus earlier this year.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Change of ownership for Hagemeyer in Aus earlier this year.

From one unknown (in this market..) French electrical reseller to another

[TSR]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

has there been any confirmation of Will staying at DJR yet? If not, especially after today's effort, if I was Mr Johnson Snr i'd have the cheque book out. Likewise if i was Ross or Jim Stone i'd be looking closely to replace JC moving to a 3rd FPR car...

Strong rumour from the powder room nth of the border, is that Will Davidson has signed with SBR for 09 and his brother Alex will be replacing him at DJR in 09.

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by TSR

Strong rumour from the powder room nth of the border, is that Will Davidson has signed with SBR for 09 and his brother Alex will be replacing him at DJR in 09.

well my preference would be to see him stay in a DJR Ford, but an SBR Ford is probably the next best thing...

[banksie]

Orrcon to SBR? Floated here.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by banksie

Orrcon to SBR? Floated here.

Considering that Mr Winterbottom shall drive a mostly-Castrol-liveried Falcon for Sandown/Bathurst, perhaps primary sponsorship, and the same bloke in the car at each round of the series, is a major drawcard?

At a sponsorship value of <$1m, its not exactly a financial windfall for SBR for whole-of-car for Mr Davison's unit.... unless there are other supporting sponsors (Mistral? ) are also aboard....

SBR virtually pioneered the 2 car, 2 sponsor model in this series... it can be made to work... if the two sets of sponsors are each actively contributing the same shedload of sponduli, and the drivers are of a similar standard/quality.

That article also suggests that SuperCheap is spending $15m a season at SCAR... which would be nice if true...

[rich07]

$15m a year for SCAR?? SuperCheap put in a lot of money into SCAR (hence being called SuperCheap Auto Racing) and adding in all the advertising featuring The Enforcer but fifteen million is bit out there. I love it how journalists pull figures out of thin air-it makes me laugh.