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Old 16 Jun 2014, 05:27 (Ref:3422375)   #46
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Interesting place to put their exhaust pipe I think. Surely something can be done in the future to make full use of the low pressure area around there.
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 10:35 (Ref:3422470)   #47
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The car looks very well thought out. But I must admit to being surprised AER went the twin turbo route. This will comprise the aero of the air exiting the radiators and intercoolers. I would have thought they gone single turbo and mounted it above the bellhousing like they do in F1, or more adventurous go the "hot-V" route like audi have.......I guess it was a compromise of performance and throttle response, as a single turbo for a gasoline engine will be a bit more laggy and probably not have a VGT system........lets hope the car will make it to austin.
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 04:47 (Ref:3427007)   #48
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Lotus shakedown, ~100km completed. Theyre not lacking in lights.
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 06:23 (Ref:3427017)   #49
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 07:46 (Ref:3427031)   #50
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I wonder if theyll get the 72L tank and 810kg weight break Rebellion received.
Would think so, ACO has (thankfully) tended to balance the privateer class as a whole against the factories, instead of giving them individual BoP values
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 13:54 (Ref:3427132)   #52
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Would think so, ACO has (thankfully) tended to balance the privateer class as a whole against the factories, instead of giving them individual BoP values
And there is no way the ACO-FIA can adjust the performance in the LMP1-L class on an individual basis. The adjustments apply equally to all LMP1-L competitors.

It will be interesting to see if the Lotus P1-01 can be as fast "out of the box" as the new Rebellion R-One (if the Lotus can run reliably which is far from being granted ...).
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 14:22 (Ref:3427148)   #53
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I was going to chime in and say I hope they have enough time to get some testing done before the next round of the WEC, but then I remembered the next round is sometime later this decade so they should be fine...
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I'd still like to see a picture which shows the car actually moving at speed.
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And there is no way the ACO-FIA can adjust the performance in the LMP1-L class on an individual basis. The adjustments apply equally to all LMP1-L competitors.
I don't think the regs state that, it's just the way they operate... in fact IIRC nowhere in the regs did it even say they can separately balance the Ls against Hs in the first place?

Anyway, I just remembered reading/hearing that at least one manufacturer vetoed even further BoP helps for the Rebellion before Le Mans on the basis that the car had only done one race. And therefore they "only' got -40kg / +3,7liters / no consumption limit instead of even more. Which would imply that if Rebellion now gets further BoP for the next race, ACO couldn't (?) be able to give the same values for Lotus as they hadn't had the mileage so...
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 15:09 (Ref:3427161)   #56
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I don't think the regs state that, it's just the way they operate... in fact IIRC nowhere in the regs did it even say they can separately balance the Ls against Hs in the first place?

Anyway, I just remembered reading/hearing that at least one manufacturer vetoed even further BoP helps for the Rebellion before Le Mans on the basis that the car had only done one race. And therefore they "only' got -40kg / +3,7liters / no consumption limit instead of even more. Which would imply that if Rebellion now gets further BoP for the next race, ACO couldn't (?) be able to give the same values for Lotus as they hadn't had the mileage so...
Referring to the 2014 Sporting Regulations, "EQUIVALENCE SYSTEMS (PERFORMANCE AND TECHNOLOGIES)", page 6, it is merely mentioned that the Endurance Committee can adapt the performance of the LMP1-L cars (as a whole), the relevant references being the average lap time of the fastest car in each technology :
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In order to limit the differences between the Light (LMP1-L) category cars and the Hybrid (LMP1-H) category cars, the Endurance Committee will be able to adapt the performance of the LMP1-L cars in accordance with the following conditions:
A. The reference will be the calculation of the average lap time of the fastest car in each technology. The average lap time will be calculated over the number of laps corresponding to 20% of the distance of the races (average of the best laps).
The models of the cars with the slowest technologies must have participated in at least two races and must have been properly classified in order to be able to benefit from the application of the rule.
The first adjustment of performance may be applied at any time by the Endurance Committee.
The Committee will have the right to request any necessary information from the manufacturers and/or the competitors, in order to the shed light on the issue at hand. Any such information will be treated in a strictly confidential manner.
I understand this as excluding the possibility of individual BoP-like adjustment within any of the LMP1-L and LMP1-H categories. Besides, the Endurance Committee can only "play" with the Appendix B figures and there is only one relevant column in the LMP1-L category and for each ERS option in the LMP1-H category.

I personally don't see a problem with this. There will at least be some competition in the LMP1-L category for the best-in-class position and this will provide a more representative picture of the respective levels of performance between privateers and manufacturers. Having two references is better than having just one.
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Old 27 Jun 2014, 15:12 (Ref:3427165)   #57
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Yeah I much rather take this than individual-BoP annoyance
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I'd still like to see a picture which shows the car actually moving at speed.

Hahahaha nice one
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I'd still like to see a picture which shows the car actually moving at speed.
Same here, these "shakedown" photos remind me a lot of the GreenGT "shakedown" photos that were released days before the project was withdrawn from Le Mans and we never heard a peep from it since.
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