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20 Sep 2007, 20:24 (Ref:2019232)
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Dominguez to Replace Dalziel at PCM?
Supposedly, Mario Dominguez will replace Ryan Dalziel at PCM for the final two races.
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20 Sep 2007, 21:18 (Ref:2019306)
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I can't yet Tim but I just want to say Mario must have driven for every CC team now this year! Certainly a record for the number he has driven for this year.
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20 Sep 2007, 21:33 (Ref:2019322)
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20 Sep 2007, 21:37 (Ref:2019329)
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A shame it's Ryan rather than Alex who's standing aside, but good to have a second Mexican for their home race.
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20 Sep 2007, 22:53 (Ref:2019360)
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A shame for Ryan as he has done fairly well this year , certainly outshined Figge and has put in some vey good performances.
Good to see Mario back I guess , he has been the super super sub this year and Im guessing it has something to do with Mexican Money but I hope he does really well |
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21 Sep 2007, 10:44 (Ref:2019609)
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Well, I guess if it is a "win" all around to replace Servia at Forsythe, how can this be anything but that?
A long time ago I said that CC was becoming the "Roller Derby" of racing. The teams come to your town, you get to see the local favorites and then the show moves to the next town discarding the local favorites for new local favorites. Mario hasn't done diddly in any car this season - hence no solid ride - but since he is the right demographic then well, he is now a Mexican Superstar. I can't wait to read how this is a good thing after many complained in the Danica thread about the shameless marketing and even more ironic: complaining she is only a marketing tool and should not have the ride because she has never won anything. Meanwhile, back at CC Central we have two drivers replacing perfectly good drivers (or in Servia's case, a really good driver) strictly for demographic reasons. And yes, I know that Mario has two wins. But so did RHR and even Phillipe had one... All this from what purports to be an "elite" motor racing series. I think I am going to see if I can catch the "Jammers" playing the "Bay City Bombers" on the telly.... |
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21 Sep 2007, 16:05 (Ref:2019801)
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What a joke. This is the last straw for me. For the first time ever I hope CCWS is a complete failure in the next couple of years & falls apart. I have never until now wanted the IRL to dominate but I now hope it will. It could teach CCWS a few things about loyalty to drivers & how to create a calendar of solid events. I still hope that CCWS next year causes me to retract these comments. I'm not holding my breath though...
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21 Sep 2007, 19:37 (Ref:2020012)
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21 Sep 2007, 20:44 (Ref:2020073)
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I too am disappointed that Dalziel and Servia have been dumped.
It has been suggested that the event contract includes a clause stating that two Mexicans must be in the race, or the event cancelled. I'm not certain if the promoters were looking for a reason to cancel the event, and chose this one, or if they legitimately are concerned about such things. Anyway, it seems obvious that the two Mexicans card has been played, and CCWS has been forced to do something about it. It would have been preferable to pony up the dollars to add two cars to the grid for one race, at least in my mind. Given an inability (or desire) by the principles to pony up the money for two additional cars, certainly replacing Dalziel and Servia is better than cancelling the event altogether. This does tell us two interesting things. 1. The promoters have considered cancelling this event, which does put it's future under clouds.. particularly given the website situation, and inability to buy tickets. 2. CCWS principles aren't interested in putting money up to add two additional cars for one race.... or they are so dense they didn't consider it... |
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21 Sep 2007, 20:55 (Ref:2020082)
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I am reluctantly thinking too dense is more likely considering what has gone on this year.
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21 Sep 2007, 21:07 (Ref:2020089)
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As I understand it, and consider it speculative, the driver situation isn't the only thing being discussed in order to have this race and that's why the driver thing looks a bit dumb by itself, but "go or no go" time is supposedly next week.
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21 Sep 2007, 22:03 (Ref:2020125)
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21 Sep 2007, 23:49 (Ref:2020161)
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Another Great Moment in American Open Wheel Racing...
Dalziel hit it right on the head: "...they whored me out for the money..." The only thing that could "improve" the situation is if Mexico cancels, then I can drink a great big glass of bitter irony. |
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21 Sep 2007, 23:53 (Ref:2020163)
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This is just dumb. The Servia situation I understood and accepted, as I said in the other thred, but kicking out a driver you've worked with for three years without the blink of an eye just amazes me - especially with the fantastic performance Dalziel has put in. The message PCM sends out is "we care only about money and nepotism", because Alex is there because of daddy Tom, not because he comes with nice sponsor money. And with him having performed so poorly he should have been the one on the sidelines.
I just cannot see the logic in running Figge/Dominguez if Mario brings cash (as Ryan so beautifuly puts it, "whored him out for money"). Dominguez/Dalziel would have been a good, solid lineup. And again, the worst part is that they've (PCM) dumped a long-term driver who had a full season deal. "I don't know whether to blame PCM or Champ Car but I can't take too many more of these things from Champ Car." Dalziel says. Boy, go to the American Le Mans Series. Simply the most professional road racing in the United States. |
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22 Sep 2007, 12:59 (Ref:2020416)
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I don't get it either, but its been obvious PCM has been struggling for money all season, with their rotating sponsorships. And obviously a team setup so Figge could race isn't going to drop him. I can definitely think of a couple other drivers that should be replaced even before Figge, let alone Dalziel
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23 Sep 2007, 01:47 (Ref:2020740)
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Apparently MD will be with PCM for next year as well.
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23 Sep 2007, 10:44 (Ref:2020877)
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Yes which shows this was a permanent decision. If it was just for Mexico he would have just come in at Mexico not Surfers. Also this move has been rumored for months as Mario was wanting a full time drive for the next year and wanted to get with a team for that asap. This has now happened.
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23 Sep 2007, 10:48 (Ref:2020880)
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23 Sep 2007, 11:37 (Ref:2020898)
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I haven't seen ANY announcements about drivers for next year.
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23 Sep 2007, 22:57 (Ref:2021345)
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24 Sep 2007, 08:48 (Ref:2021520)
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If the team portfolio of a series includes an important shares of unfunded outfits you got to expect that they'll continuously be in search of better-funded pay drivers; but from a fan point of view, the problem is why this series have this kind of teams, and above all, whether there is the chance to improve the situation or not. Rebus sic stantibus there's no place for optimism I reckon. |
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28 Sep 2007, 13:35 (Ref:2025138)
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28 Sep 2007, 15:39 (Ref:2025222)
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Doesn't seem quite so bad now that we know he should be there for 2008. A shame it's Figge rather than Dalziel keeping the drive, but nepotism is nothing unusual in motorsport, and certainly not OWRS-specific.
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MEXICAN SPONSOR TECATE RETURNS TO CHAMP CAR
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The Alex Figge car is also running signage from Conrad Juipiters this weekend at Surfers Paradise |
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