Final Countdown

Rocktracer · 25 Aug 2003, 12:29 (Ref:698222)

2nd Formula Ren race about to start!

With Hamilton's win in the first race and streaking away in the points table. The race is for second!

Query on jenson's 2nd Driver Morrow.. He qualified for the race but from what i saw/read he didn't compete.

Race 1 Result

1 3 Lewis HAMILTON GBR Manor Motorsport 22:59.593 28 89.64 45.447
2 17 Alex LLOYD GBR Motaworld Racing 23:01.354 28 1.761 89.52 45.624
3 46 James ROSSITER GBR Fortec Motorsport 23:02.241 28 2.648 89.47 45.855
4 15 Susie STODDART GBR Motaworld Racing 23:02.850 28 3.257 89.43 45.788
5 26 Mike CONWAY GBR Fortec Motorsport 23:02.963 28 3.370 89.42 45.675
6 4 Sergio JIMENEZ BRA Manor Motorsport 23:03.853 28 4.260 89.36 45.952
7 16 Mike SPENCER GBR Motaworld Racing 23:05.004 28 5.411 89.29 45.990
8 7 Paul DI RESTA GBR Team JVA 23:05.476 28 5.883 89.26 45.906
9 22 Alex STORCKENFELDT SWE Mark Burdett Motorsport 23:05.791 28 6.198 89.24 46.228
10 28 Stefan SODERBERG SWE Team DFR 23:07.991 28 8.398 89.09 46.240
11 14 Matteo MENEGHELLO ITA Motaworld Racing 23:08.239 28 8.646 89.08 45.994
12 5 Matthew WILSON GBR Manor Motorsport 23:08.413 28 8.820 89.07 46.169
13 27 John BYRNE GBR Falcon Motorsport 23:08.686 28 9.093 89.05 46.101
14 6 Charles HOLLINGS GBR Team JVA 23:09.895 28 10.302 88.97 45.989
15 33 Daniel WELCH GBR Welch Motorsport 23:10.235 28 10.642 88.95 46.217
16 55 Philip KERSHAW IRL Status Motorsport 23:11.635 28 12.042 88.86 46.328
17 10 Tom SISLEY GBR Eurotek Motorsport 23:11.768 28 12.175 88.85 45.621
18 25 David EPTON GBR Scorpio 23:12.063 28 12.470 88.83 46.495
19 2 Jonathan ADAM GBR Team DFR 23:12.467 28 12.874 88.81 46.423
20 38 Ronayne O'MAHONEY IRL Fortec Motorsport 23:14.160 28 14.567 88.70 47.000
21 23 Franky CHENG CHN Hill Speed Racing 23:14.330 28 14.737 88.69 46.845
22 12 Brandon THOMAS CAN Paston Racing 23:14.438 28 14.845 88.68 46.743
23 9 Neil DORAN GBR Jensen Motorsport 23:15.077 28 15.484 88.64 46.715
24 18 Juan POLAR PER John Village Automotive 23:19.224 28 19.631 88.38 46.375
Not Classified
21 Jason TAHINCI TRI Mark Burdett Motorsport 22:29.046 27 D.N.F. 88.39 46.406
1 Robert SCOTT GBR Fortec Motorsport 12:54.111 16 D.N.F. 91.32 46.551
66 Ryan LEWIS GBR Manor Motorsport 9:43.835 12 D.N.F. 90.84 46.734
20 Ben REEVES GBR Paston Racing 8:08.598 10 D.N.F. 90.48 46.826

Fastest Lap
3 Lewis HAMILTON Manor Motorsport 45.447 5 156.31kph 97.13

No 4 · 25 Aug 2003, 12:39 (Ref:698234)

Electrical problems in qualifying, so Jamie Morrow didn't make the cut.

Rocktracer · 25 Aug 2003, 14:37 (Ref:698315)

sorry to here that!
2nd Race
Hamilton, sisley, Lloyd and 2 fortec's

paulzinho · 25 Aug 2003, 18:43 (Ref:698533)

Some huge creeping at the start of that race, the bloke starting directly in front of my standing position had moved over half a length before the lights went out and no punishment at all from what I saw!

paulzinho · 25 Aug 2003, 18:44 (Ref:698537)

BTW I think it was car 7 that was creeping, I'll check the video later.

**bella** · 25 Aug 2003, 19:26 (Ref:698569)

di resta? red and silver car.

second race was superb, if you watched the back bunch of cars rather than the front. top notch overtaking stuff.

paulzinho · 25 Aug 2003, 19:43 (Ref:698586)

Yeah think it was red and silver.

But i'm tired! So my memory might not be all that! Looked like a few moves going on into paddock but at the fron it was pretty spaced out!

**bella** · 25 Aug 2003, 19:52 (Ref:698595)

sounds about right. it'd have been him or polar.

paddock, druids, that one after druids.... excellent stuff.

Rocktracer · 25 Aug 2003, 20:09 (Ref:698603)

Scores

Hamilton: 283 + 32 + 32 + 4 = 351
Rossiter: 258 + 25 + 22 = 305 - 20 = 285
Lloyd: 246 + 28 + 25 = 299 - 20 = 279
Sisley: 256 + 4 + 28 = 288 - 20 = 266

**Craig** · 25 Aug 2003, 20:11 (Ref:698606)

To be fair - half the bloody field were creeping - I'd have penalised them all!

Rocktracer · 25 Aug 2003, 20:12 (Ref:698607)

so we have Hamilton ahead on 351
With Rossiter on 285 after dropping 20pts
Lloyd is currently on 279 with a 20 pt loss
Sisley on 266 after his low finish in race 1,
which actually didnt really affect his score

With 4 races left, Hamiltons score looks catcable.
He has the most to loose if he fails to finish, after 2 dnf's already

**bella** · 25 Aug 2003, 20:20 (Ref:698613)

especially if one of the others fail to finish - that'll give them a better score to drop, right?

regarding creeping at the start, it's the same throughout the single seaters at least. video system or not, i've stood right in front of people leaving their grid positions some time before the lights went out this year. no penalties or anything.

paulzinho · 25 Aug 2003, 20:42 (Ref:698638)

Incidentally why was Sisley given a 10 second penalty in race one?

I assumed it was for jump starting but if its common practice then what was it?

Rocktracer · 25 Aug 2003, 20:51 (Ref:698645)

Hope Jenson will consider giving another Him another run.

Who else didn't make the cut?

Interesting research ive done and will hopefully bring a smile to Jenson's face

Mussi did a 46.315 in Fortec car in August
and he did 47.389 in a Jenson in May.

However the fastest in qualifying
45.265 in May and a 44.772 in August

So in conclusion Same driver (Mussi) will get a similar performance from both cars, taking in to account gaining experience .... in theory... IM OPEN TO BE CORRECTED

**bella** · 25 Aug 2003, 20:55 (Ref:698650)

mussi's no hamilton though...

calasan was another to fail to make the cut. the other guy escapes me at the moment.

Rocktracer · 25 Aug 2003, 20:58 (Ref:698654)

very true Bella however most people are to keen to slate Jenson on the quality of his cars.. just trying to prove a point that there not THAT Bad!!

**bella** · 25 Aug 2003, 21:08 (Ref:698665)

oh yes, and the point's well made. i think it's fairly clear that someone should make a better job of the fortec car.

not really that much to get wrong in formula renault though, so i don't know where people are coming from with their remarks about competitiveness of jensen's cars.

3003000 · 25 Aug 2003, 21:20 (Ref:698680)

who saw the carnage done by the black and yellow car i think it was ben reeves what an amateur. what was he thinking carrying on with a nose cone in that state? any ideas?

**bella** · 25 Aug 2003, 21:44 (Ref:698701)

probably trying to salvage something from a terrible weekend. you never know, carry on going and you might get a point. but it wasn't worth it and he figured that quite quickly.

Rocktracer · 26 Aug 2003, 18:42 (Ref:699797)

Quote:

Originally posted by 3003000
who saw the carnage done by the black and yellow car i think it was ben reeves what an amateur. what was he thinking carrying on with a nose cone in that state? any ideas?

thats a little harsh as some guys out there are paying a hefty price for their drive. There gonna get the most out of it!

carbontub · 26 Aug 2003, 18:59 (Ref:699828)

i must say to carry on with the car in the state it was you would have to have rocks in your head he could of caused a major prang Rocktracer, the car was all over the place. How long has the guy been running for, not long by the looks of that canoe.

Rocktracer · 26 Aug 2003, 19:04 (Ref:699839)

I only saw him pulling against the wall and was giving the guy benifit of doubt.

mind you I did find it funny with the nose box under the car..

I must have been half asleep but was his car the cause of the safety car? or was it some other cars out on, sorry off the track!!

rdjones · 26 Aug 2003, 19:13 (Ref:699862)

There was a lot of creeping on the line as both Pual and Craig have said, saying that I had the same view as them, as I was stood next to the both of them........

But I have too say I thought both FRenult races where crackers, but they always are IMO

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