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For once, let it go. Please. It's so tiresome.
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Highcroft racing lost same sponsor at the end of 2010 and their sportscars programs basically ended (they ran 2011 sebring and 2012 LM with delta wing just because backed by michelin and nissan). Beyond that, don't think ESM is interested to run a pro-am program in lmp2 anyway. Such a suicide move the P class split, considering that an oreca lmp2 was 3 points away from being champion. If HPD will open for customers, DPi class will turn in some kind of closed wheel indy |
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If they can't get a sponsor, their options(short of shutting down) are: 1) Convert their Nissan DPis to Ligier LMP2s 2) Run a GT3 car from a currently active GTD participant 3) Run a GT3 car from a not currently active GTD participant The only thing I think can be said for sure is that Option 3 is not happening. If they can't get money to keep the DPi program going, they're not getting enough to bring a new manufacturer to GTD - the manufacturer fee is the same either way. Option 1 is likely to be the cheapest. While an Audi R8 GT3(just for an example) would run them close to $460,000 and LMP2s are cost capped at just shy of $576,000, the team already has the tub, suspension, and floor of a Ligier JSP217 - they've only got to purchase new engines and bodywork, so figure on it only costing them 1/2-2/3 of the full price. But that depends on whether or not they actually OWN the cars or if Ligier just gave them to the team as part of the program(Ligier was involved with the aero development, after all). I feel fairly confident we'll see ESM on the grid next year. Whether in LMP2 or GTD, or with one car or two I dare not predict. |
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Honestly don't know, I'm not so trustful to see them again.
Anyway, I have a little doubt. Is lexus gt3 powered by a 5L or a 5.4L ? |
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Oh, I don't blindly trust that it will happen either, but I find it more likely we'll see them in some form or another than we are to see them go away. Quote:
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No I am not. Thus why I stated...
...In the very same post you quoted from. I have heard conflicting information on this, so I opted not to make a declaratory statement on it. |
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Onroak is the true owner, infact car is officially named: Nissan Onroak DPi, and as far I knew, onroak had nismo exclusive for 2017 and 2018 season. There are just few teams in the world using ligier, I guess the only likely ligier team that could afford a nismo dpi project is united autosport. Zack Brown revealed they were looking for a dpi progam some time ago. |
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Their decision to change from GTLM to LMP2 before ALMS 2013 was a very late decision. I think just 2 months before Sebring that year. |
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Am I reading this right? According to the DIS camping page for the Rolex, EVERY camping option (with the exception of west park tent camping) has been sold out.
With 3 1/2 months to go before the race, Daytona may have to consider opening up more RV/camping lots...if there are even any left to open! Nontheless, this is great to see! https://www.daytonainternationalspee...O-Camping.aspx |
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Dpi is going to be way too populated by Cadillac. Acura and Mazda need to start selling their cars. The entries aren't the problem. It's the fact that they're going to outnumber the combined competition and that will help the car out significantly especially with data on the new tires.
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Complete sellout of infield attendance options has been a pretty regular occurrence since the merger, though I think it's going faster than in the past few years. |
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Flying Lizards closing in on an IMSA sprint cup return, potentially with a pair of new mclarens.
Where do we sign the petition to make this happen? |
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Then I realized between the cost savings potential, the condensed schedule being from May to September, also with the fact that you have until May of 2019 to finalize a program. That should make us realize that this is a good concept. The icing on the cake was a manufacturer fee discount for doing sprint cup only. Enter a make like McLaren now who otherwise don't want to put down the million dollar full season fee. Wonder why its not Bentley. Isn't Flying Lizard and KPax the same operation now? |
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Could still work though in order to get an all GT race. CTMP seems like a good place to experiment with it. Have split GT and Proto races there. Change it up even further from Watkins Glen being the week before. Could work now with GTD sprint cup grid size looking good. The GT competitors deferentially like it when there are no protos out there as well. Still can be done if IMSA officials read in on this!
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And it sounds like IMSA is aware an more importantly willing to admit that the "ransom" required to come play might not be a great idea and is turning off manufacturers as they are considering a reduced marketing fee for new teams as a kind of intro offer. Now will they offer a discount for those only doing the enduros, or sprint only vs "regular" full season? |
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It's not really a discount on the fee, manufacturers paying a partial fee are only allowed to participate in the (shorter) sprint season. If a team wants to add an enduro later on (Petit comes to mind), that manufacturer will be required to cough up the additional fee or the team is forced to switch cars for an one-off. I'm guessing IMSA's hope is the new sprint season manufacturers will see the added value to participate in their series and wanna join the full time circus in 2020.
Either way, it would be great to see a McLaren (or two) on the GTD grid next year (and Bentley for that matter)! |
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On that note (and leaving the entire discussion about the fee being there in the first place out of the equation): it would be good if IMSA would make manufacturers that want to participate in the enduros, subject to a similar “appropriated pro-rated [marketing] commitment”.
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Ok that Sebring Encore entry list was complete dud. My interest in this race was 100% dependent on the quality and quantity of the GTD class. Turns out there is ZERO of them. Buh Bye. Don't care about this one anymore.
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