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Old 13 Jan 2011, 07:36 (Ref:2815139)   #46
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The AMRY race report says that Hansford raced in Toy Shop colours, the car being ex-Network Alfa.
Thats correct.

The car was plain white, running as #27. It was the ex-Bond car from earlier in the year (when Jones left, Bond took over his Luigi-built car)

Allan Grice would drive this car in the Better Brakes 300 at Amaroo, & Bond would later run this car at the Adelaide AGP support race after the Luigi car was written off the previous weekend at the Surfers AEC round, and 'Captain' Peter Janson would also use the 'Toy Shop' Alfa in a rallysprint.
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Better Brakes 300
1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 1 - Amaroo Park, NSW (4/8/1985)

also Round 4 of the Better Brakes AMSCAR Series
Better Brakes 300
1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 1 - Amaroo Park, NSW (4/8/1985)

also Round 4 of the Better Brakes AMSCAR Series

Circuit Length: 1.946 km
Race Distance: 155 laps

PositionNumberEntrantDriver/sCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
11JPS Team BMWJim RichardsBMW 635CSiC2h28m08.06s 0m55.11s0m53.80s1
23H. Kent BaigentKent Baigent / Neal LoweBMW 635CSiC153 laps 0m55.11s0m55.53s8
305Mobil Holden Dealer TeamPeter BrockHolden Commodore VKC153 laps 0m55.29s0m54.34s2
47Mobil Holden Dealer TeamJohn Harvey / David ParsonsHolden Commodore VKC153 laps 0m56.33s0m55.81s 
527Network AlfaColin Bond / Gregg HansfordAlfa Romeo GTV6B153 laps 0m56.33s0m55.10s5
623JPS Team BMWTony LonghurstBMW 323iB152 laps 0m57.01s0m55.62s9
710Toyota Team AustraliaJohn SmithToyota CorollaA148 laps 0m58.00s0m56.36s 
819Ken Mathews Prestige CarsKen Mathews / Terry FinniganHolden Commodore VKC147 laps 0m57.75s0m56.64s 
933Mike BurgmannMike Burgmann / Bob StevensHolden Commodore VKC144 laps 0m58.47s0m57.84s 
1024JagpartsGerald Kay / Don BretlandHolden Commodore VKC144 laps 0m57.98s0m57.52s 
1325Yellow PagesTony Kavich / Ralph RadburnHolden Commodore VKC     
   Bernie McClureHolden Commodore VKC     
 39Graeme BowkettGraeme Bowkett / Wayne WilkinsonHolden Commodore VKC     
 53 Chris HeyerAudi 5+5B     
 13Bob Holden MotorsBob Holden / Mike QuinnToyota Corolla AE86 LiftbackA     
 11Toyota Team AustraliaDrew PriceToyota Corolla AE86 LiftbackA     
DNF2Masterton Homes Pty LtdSteve MastertonHolden Commodore VKC lost wheel   
DNF77 Peter Williamson / Charlie O'BrienToyota SupraB7 lapsclutch 0m54.56s4
DNF26The Toy ShopAllan GriceAlfa Romeo GTV6B3 lapsgearbox 0m55.47s7
DNS21 Robbie FrancevicVolvo 240TB lost wheel - warm-up lap  3
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Quoted from William Dale Jr. Almost nothing to add, but was this the first Group A race for Allan Grice? Only recently I learned he disliked the catagory, which might explain why he one-make series at this time.

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Old 13 Jan 2011, 10:07 (Ref:2815196)   #48
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[QUOTE=William Dale Jr;2811002]Pepsi 250
1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 2 - Oran Park, NSW (18/8/1985)


Pepsi 250
1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 2 - Oran Park, NSW (18/8/1985)


Circuit Length: 2.62 km
Race Distance: 100 laps

Johnson dominates the race, but suffers a stub axle failure with just over 10 laps to go. Who inherits the win? That black BMW...again!

PositionNumberEntrantDriver/sCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
11JPS Team BMWJim RichardsBMW 635CSiC2h12m07.2s  1m15.9s2
205Mobil Holden Dealer TeamPeter BrockHolden Commodore VKC99 laps  1m16.6s5
321Petch Mechanical SealsRobbie FrancevicVolvo 240TB99 laps  1m16.8s7
430Yellow Pages RacingAllan Grice/Tony Kavich - DNSHolden Commodore VKC98 laps  1m16.5s4
512 Garry Willmington / Ron GillardJaguar XJ-SC98 laps  1m17.2s8
6 Network AlfaColin Bond / Gregg HansfordAlfa Romeo GTV6B98 laps  1m17.7s 
7  Kevin Bartlett/Peter Fitzgerald?Mitsubishi StarionB98 laps  1m17.3s 
83H. Kent BaigentKent Baigent/Neal Lowe?BMW 635CSiC97 laps  1m16.7s6
939Graeme BowkettGraeme Bowkett / Wayne WilkinsonHolden Commodore VKC97 laps  1m18.4s 
1023JPS Team BMWTony LonghurstBMW 323iB97 laps  1m18.9s 
?/(1)10Toyota Team AustraliaJohn SmithToyota CorollaA     
?/(2)13Bob Holden MotorsMike Quinn/Bob Holden?Toyota Corolla AE86 LiftbackA     
DNF17Palmer Tube MillsDick JohnsonFord MustangC88 lapsstub axle 1m15.1s1
 36Lusty Engineering P/LGraham LustyHolden Commodore VKC     
DNF14Auckland - Coin & Bullion Exchange LtdDenny Hulme / Ray SmithHolden Commodore VKC     
 19Ken Mathews Prestige CarsKen MathewsHolden Commodore VKC     
 33Mike BurgmannMike BurgmannHolden Commodore VKC     
 41Barry JonesBarry JonesHolden Commodore VKC     
 37Brian CallaghanBrian CallaghanHolden Commodore VKC     
 4 Peter McLeod / Barry Jones?Holden Commodore VKC     
DNF77 Peter Williamson / Tomas MezeraToyota SupraB15 lapsaccident 1m16.5s3
DNF8Terry FinniganTerry Finnigan / Barry LawrenceHolden Commodore VKC     
DNF7Mobil Holden Dealer TeamJohn HarveyHolden Commodore VKC oil line   
DNF2Masterton Homes Pty LtdSteve MastertonHolden Commodore VKC engine   
DNF27Alf GrantJohn French / Alf GrantHolden Commodore VKC32/38 laps?lost wheel   
   Wally Kramer / Jon DavisonFord Mustang GTC     

Quoted from William Dale Jr. I have notes of second drivers on some cars. Please remark the ? in those cases. One particular case I'm especially curious of is the Peter McLeod and Barry Jones Commodores. According to my notes Jones raced with McLeod in this race, but Williams record shows the two drivers in separate cars. I have a note saying 15 Commodores raced at Oran Park and if I fill in my blanck spaces with the record of William Dale Jr., I end up with drivers for all 15! ..but with Barry Jones racing two cars!?

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Old 13 Jan 2011, 10:15 (Ref:2815198)   #49
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Almost nothing to add, but was this the first Group A race for Allan Grice? Only recently I learned he disliked the catagory, which might explain why he one-make series at this time.

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Is that right? Crikey that's interesting Jesper.

He must've been one of the most successful pedallers not to like the category during its time though! Twice Bathurst winner and pretty much always a front runner when he competed whether at home or in Europe.

Wonder what he could've achieved if he did like it!!

I would venture that had he come to Europe earlier (or for longer) he would certainly have racked up some wins whether in a Commodore or latterly with the Nissan.
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With Grice i think it was more he didn't really see the need to drop Group C. Also in early 1985 he was heavily involved in the running of the ARDC, had opened up a new business on the Central Coast, and also had a minor fishing accident.

He was just mainly hanging back and waiting to see the lie of the land with Group A before deciding what to do. With the chance to go to Europe, i think his interest was raised.

His team, Roadways, also adopted a wait and see approach, they helped out with the Mark Petch Volvo during the season as well as converting and building some Group A VK's, the Bathurst effort was done in conjunction with Warren Cullen's team as well. His main 1985 racing amounted to just the Nissan-backed Pulsar ET series (won by Jim Richards)
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With Grice i think it was more he didn't really see the need to drop Group C. Also in early 1985 he was heavily involved in the running of the ARDC, had opened up a new business on the Central Coast, and also had a minor fishing accident.

He was just mainly hanging back and waiting to see the lie of the land with Group A before deciding what to do. With the chance to go to Europe, i think his interest was raised.

His team, Roadways, also adopted a wait and see approach, they helped out with the Mark Petch Volvo during the season as well as converting and building some Group A VK's, the Bathurst effort was done in conjunction with Warren Cullen's team as well. His main 1985 racing amounted to just the Nissan-backed Pulsar ET series (won by Jim Richards)
Thank you for sheading some more light into the dealings of Grice in 1985 and the other recent contributions, racer69. I was thinking along the lines that a Group C Commodore would make it hard for a Group A Commodore to compare favorable, for a racer like Grice.

Roadways has always puzzled me a bit regarding ownership. It was/is a tarmac industry? sponsoring a race team where the son of the company, Steve Harrington, was the driver, cars being prepared by Les Small and with Allan Grice doing a lot of testing and driving. At some point I think Roadways was used to describe the Small/Grice partnership - ca. 1986/1987 - without really getting into details of who was leading who. Only one thing seemed to be consistent and that was where Grice raced, Small was managing.

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1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 3 - Sandown Park, VIC (15/9/1985)
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1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 3 - Sandown Park, VIC (15/9/1985)


Circuit Length: 3.9 km
Race Distance: 129 laps
Weather: Cloudy

PositionNumberEntrantDriversCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
11JPS Team BMWJim Richards / Tony LonghurstBMW 635CSiC4h12m26.4s 1m53.8s1m52.7s4
231JPS Team BMWNeville Crichton / George FuryBMW 635CSiC129 laps 1m55.2s1m54.4s9
344Peter Williamson ToyotaPeter Williamson / Tomas MezeraToyota SupraB127 laps 1m56.0s1m55.7s13
447Network AlfaColin Bond / Gregg HansfordAlfa Romeo GTV6B126 laps 1m56.1s1m56.9s16
536Lusty Engineering P/LGraham Lusty / Ken LustyHolden Commodore VKC123 laps 2m00.4s2m01.0s23
639Graeme BowkettGraeme Bowkett / Wayne WilkinsonHolden Commodore VKC123 laps 1m56.9s1m57.1s17
714Auckland - Coin & Bullion Exchange LtdDenny Hulme / Ray SmithHolden Commodore VKC121 laps 1m55.6s1m55.4s12
813Grellis MarketingRay Ellis / Bernie McClureHolden Commodore VKC120 laps 2m00.4s1m58.5s20
961Toyota Team AustraliaRay Cutchie / John FaulknerToyota SprinterA115 laps 2m01.5s2m02.5s26
1057Bob Holden Motors Manly ValeBob Holden / Glenn ClarkToyota Corolla AE86 LiftbackA115 laps 2m04.0s2m05.4s28
1158David RatcliffDavid Ratcliff / Don SmithToyota Corolla AE86 LiftbackA114 laps 2m05.1s2m07.2s31
1288 John White / Les SzreiawskiIsuzu Gemini ZZA112 laps 2m11.1s2m09.8s33
1345Ray GulsonRay Gulson / Frank PorterAlfa Romeo GTV6B111 laps 2m05.8s2m02.0s25
14  John Craft / Les GroseFord CapriB107 laps 2m05.5s2m05.9s29
1552 Pat Hogbin / John HogbinFord CapriB102 laps 2m03.4s2m03.6s27
1664 Ken Harrison / Ian WellsFord Escort RS2000 or MexicoA100 laps 2m07.5sNTR36
1742Mitsubishi RalliartKevin Bartlett / Peter McKayMitsubishi StarionB100 laps 1m55.6s1m54.4s8
1850 Laurie Hazelton / Jerry StraubergFord CapriB100 laps 2m07.7s2m06.3s30
1917Palmer Tube MillsDick Johnson / Larry PerkinsFord MustangC92 laps 1m53.6s1m52.4s3
2066 Lorraine Orchard / Paul TaylorTriumph DolomiteA84 laps 2m10.5s2m10.7s34
2154Melbourne Clutch & BrakeBrian Sampson / Garry WaldonMitsubishi StarionB51 laps 1m58.5s1m59.0s21
DNF41Barry JonesBarry Jones / Tony MulvihillHolden Commodore VKC92 lapswheel bearing1m57.1s1m57.2s18
DNF24JagpartsGerald Kay / Martin PowerHolden Commodore VKC92 lapsengine1m56.0s1m58.1s19
DNF12Garry WillmingtonGarry Willmington / Peter JansonJaguar XJSC81 lapsignition1m57.7s1m55.2s11
DNF7Mobil Holden Dealer TeamJohn Harvey / David ParsonsHolden Commodore VKC78 lapsoverheating1m54.6s1m53.7s7
DNF6Roadways Racing ServicesAllan Grice / Warren CullenHolden Commodore VKC68 lapsengine1m55.0s1m52.4s2
DNF60Toyota Team AustraliaJohn Smith / Drew PriceToyota SprinterA66 lapsengine2m02.6s2m01.6s24
DNF49John BundyJohn Bundy / Norman CarrMazda RX-7B65 lapsgearbox2m09.2s2m09.7s32
DNF55Petch Mechanical SealsRobbie Francevic / John BoweVolvo 240TB60 lapsdifferential1m53.9s1m52.9s5
DNF43Mitsubishi RalliartPeter Fitzgerald / Brad JonesMitsubishi StarionB50 lapsoverheating1m55.3s1m53.3s6
DNF22Erle McRae MotorsportCharlie O'Brien / Andrew MiedeckeBMW 635CSiC50 lapsengine1m55.6s1m55.7s14
DNF05Mobil Holden Dealer TeamPeter Brock / David OxtonHolden Commodore VKC41 lapsengine1m53.7s1m52.3s1
DNF28Capri ComponentsLaurie Nelson / Bill O'BrienFord MustangC41 lapsengine1m58.6s1m56.3s15
DNF20Jim KeoghJim Keogh / Garry RogersBMW 635CSiC39 lapsCV joint1m58.5sNTR22
DNF3H. Kent BaigentKent Baigent / Neal LoweBMW 635CSiC38 lapselectrical1m54.8s1m54.4s10
DNF56 Mike Minnear / Paul ElliotVolvo 360GLTA22 lapsgearbox2m16.3s2m12.1s35

Quoted from William Dale Jr. Car numbers seems to sort of indicate classes - low numbers for class C, high numbers for class A.

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[QUOTE=William Dale Jr;2811010]Motorcraft 300
1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 5 - Surfers Paradise, QLD (27/10/1985)


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1985 Australian Endurance Championship
Round 5 - Surfers Paradise, QLD (27/10/1985)


Circuit Length: 3.2 km
Race Distance: 40 laps (90 laps scheduled, race duration reduced due to multi-car accident during first start)
Weather: Overcast and rainy

Heavy rains overnight had left the Surfers circuit well and truly waterlogged, including flooding the storm water drains around the circuit which forced the cancellation of supporting open-wheel races. More rain a few laps in mixed with oil left by the Davidson/Kramer Mustang caused over 2/3rds of the field to slip off into the ditch on the outside of Ipec corner. Greville Arnel was taken to hospital with neck injuries after Bond's Alfa slammed into his parked Starion as Arnel was getting out of the car. The carnage left Terry Finnigan leading John Smith; both had gone off in the oil and water but had somehow avoided getting stuck. The race was eventually stopped and completely restarted an hour later but without Brock and Harvey, both of whom had already caught a plane back to Melbourne! Skippy Parsons would take the wheel of the #7 Commodore.

Only 14 cars would take the restart, eventually won by Richards from O'Brien and Johnson. The Mustang led early before dropping back with tyres woes caused by a differential damaged in the carnage earlier, while bent suspension, also from the crash, meant O'Brien couldn't quite chase down Richards.

PositionNumberEntrantDriver/sCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
11JPS Team BMWJim RichardsBMW 635CSiC   1m16.6s1
222Erle McRae MotorsportCharlie O'BrienBMW 635CSiC   1m17.5s3
317Palmer Tube MillsDick JohnsonFord MustangC   1m17.2s2
440Terry FinniganTerry FinniganHolden Commodore VKC     
510Toyota Team AustraliaJohn SmithToyota CorollaA     
612Garry WillmingtonGarry WillmingtonJaguar XJSC     
 7Mobil Holden Dealer TeamDavid ParsonsHolden Commodore VKC     
 30Lester SmerdonLester SmerdonHolden Commodore VKC     
 20Jim KeoghJim KeoghBMW 635CSiC     
 41Barry JonesBarry Jones / Tony MulvihillHolden Commodore VKC     
 44Peter Williamson ToyotaPeter WilliamsonToyota SupraB     
 58David RatcliffDavid Ratcliff / Don SmithToyota Corolla AE86 LiftbackA     
 4I.M.B. Team WollongongPeter McLeodHolden Commodore VKC     
    Isuzu Gemini PF60A     
DNS24 Gerald KayHolden Commodore VKC accident - first start   
DNS38Barry WraithBarry Wraith / Wayne ParkHolden Commodore VKC accident - first start   
DNS47Network AlfaColin BondAlfa Romeo GTV6B accident - first start 1m18.?s5
DNS51Greville ArnelGreville ArnelMitsubishi StarionB accident - first start   
DNS6? Martin PowerTriumph Dolomite SprintA accident - first start   
DNS7Mobil Holden Dealer TeamJohn HarveyHolden Commodore VKC accident - first start   
DNS05Mobil Holden Dealer TeamPeter BrockHolden Commodore VKC timing chain - first start 1m18.0s4
DNS16Ken DavisonKen Davison / Wally KramerFord MustangC engine - first start   
  Bob Holden MotorsBob HoldenToyota CorollaA     
   Gary BurgessMazda RX-7B     
  Grellis MarketingRay EllisHolden Commodore VKC     
 17?Kevin ClarkKevin ClarkFord Mustang GTC     


Quoted from William Dale Jr. Four more entries added, but no clue as to how they fared. Nothing to add to the Bathurst and AGP races, so no posts. This will conclute my updates of results for 1985.

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Thank you for sheading some more light into the dealings of Grice in 1985 and the other recent contributions, racer69. I was thinking along the lines that a Group C Commodore would make it hard for a Group A Commodore to compare favorable, for a racer like Grice.

Roadways has always puzzled me a bit regarding ownership. It was/is a tarmac industry? sponsoring a race team where the son of the company, Steve Harrington, was the driver, cars being prepared by Les Small and with Allan Grice doing a lot of testing and driving. At some point I think Roadways was used to describe the Small/Grice partnership - ca. 1986/1987 - without really getting into details of who was leading who. Only one thing seemed to be consistent and that was where Grice raced, Small was managing.

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Peter Brock was also pretty anti-Group A to start with, took him a while to be convinced about it all too.

Then there were the likes of Frank Gardner and Dick Johnson who were very pro-Group A

Regarding Roadways, i'll give a very unofficial history. They started off by sponsoring the Gown-Hindhaugh Torana team in the late-70s which ran drivers like Garth Wigston, Wayne Negus and Charlie O'Brien (this same team won Bathurst in 1975 with Peter Brock & Brian Sampson, before Roadways was involved)

After Bruce Hindhaugh died in late-1980, the team was seemingly taken over by Roadways and Ian Harrington, as you said with his son Steve doing the driving. In 1983 the team received big money backing and Grice joined the team in a second car, and i think this is when Les Small joined the team too. At the end of the year the STP backing was lost, and the team wound up. From there Small started "Roadways Racing Services" to build and prepare cars. This consisted of running a car in the 1984 ATCC for Steve Harrington (and limited appearances for a 2nd car for Grice).

Roadways built the '86 ETCC cars, and were effectively the entrant (although it ran under the ANMR name)... they ran the VL for Grice in the 1987 ATCC (after their plans for a Nissan WTCC program fell through), and were going to run Percy in the 1988 ATCC until he got the Nissan call-up for the ETCC. As far as i know it all wound down after 1989.. though by then the team was entering cars under the ICL banner.... (as i said, very unofficial )
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From the 1985 Bathurst annual:

'The Roadways team, run by former Grice mechanic Les Small for Tasmanian road-surfacing company owner and racing enthusiast Ian Harrington actually ceased at the end of 1984. In it's place was Roadways Racing Services,a company co-owned by Small and Harrington, which had to pay it's way in 1985. That it did by taking in a lot of race preparation and car construction business from other teams starting out in Group A.

For 1985, the new Roadways operation took the practical step of joining forces with Warren Cullen's nearby K-Mart racing operation. Cullen was at a loss about Group A in the long-term, but saw the short-term benefit of joining forces, ensuring that a good car would be built and getting a co-drive with Grice...

...A large proportion of Small's time prior to Bathurst was building and rebuilding cars and building race engines for other people...That put the new operation in direct competition with the HDT which offered to supply part or fully built-up Commodores to privateers.....The Roadways customers [at Bathurst] were Tony Kavich in Commodore No25 and NZ duo Graeme Bowkett/Wayne Wilkinson in Commodore No39. Peter McLeod in car No4 used Les Small engines
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Roadways being the Harrington family business explains why Steve had this (and Re-Car, I guess) all over his Ralt in the 1985 British F3 series. Often had wondered about this.

Racer you refer to shelved plans for a Small run Nissan WTCC campaign for 1987, or was it actually '88 before the WTCC got cancelled?) I bet that was well received by Fred Gibson at the time, as he was the Nissan man over there?

I guess this also partly explains why Grice and Percy drove the Marsden run GTS-R in the '88 ETC?
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Cullen was at a loss about Group A in the long-term, but saw the short-term benefit of joining forces, ensuring that a good car would be built and getting a co-drive with Grice...
Cullen gave up completely after 1987 when there was the shambles at Bathurst over entrants getting accepted and the qualifying procedure... he was quite vocal about his opposition to the "FISA interference" in the race..... he wouldn't return to Bathurst until the 1991 12hr when he ran a Commodore with his son

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Roadways being the Harrington family business explains why Steve had this (and Re-Car, I guess) all over his Ralt in the 1985 British F3 series. Often had wondered about this.
Re-Car ties in to Roadways at some point (in a business sense), but i'm not sure of the details (other than one of the Roadways Group C VH Commodore's was stored at Re-Car in Melbourne for many years)

Re-Car Racing was a seperate team to Roadways until the end of 1982, when owner Allan Browne closed the team. Les Small joined Roadways for 1983, along with part-time Re-Car 1982 driver Grice, and early in the 1983 season Roadways also bought a car off Re-Car (the famous 100mph Bathurst VH)

I can only assume there was some sort of business tie up as well..... Eddie Jordan has some interesting things (not positive) to say about Harrington's 1985 season in his book.

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Racer you refer to shelved plans for a Small run Nissan WTCC campaign for 1987, or was it actually '88 before the WTCC got cancelled?) I bet that was well received by Fred Gibson at the time, as he was the Nissan man over there?

I guess this also partly explains why Grice and Percy drove the Marsden run GTS-R in the '88 ETC?
Roadways definatly had plans to run a Nissan in the 1987 WTCC, but all the shambles over the Strathmore/Ecclestone bustup etc... just before the series started stifled these plans (along with the Mobil-HDT plans)

I'm not sure the plans had much to do with Gibson, the Roadways plans were seperate to the Australian Gibson operation who were firmly entrenched with Nissan Australia and in Japan also, and according to 1986 interviews with the PJ team, their focus was always going to be firmly on Australia.

Interestingly also Dick Johnson was keen on running WTCC rounds when it was first announced in early 1986

Regarding 1988, Small was apparently keen to run Percy in a Commodore in the ATCC. It would have happened had Grice not paved the way for him to join the Nissan team (according to Percy in a circa-2005 interview with Australian Muscle Car Magazine, the 1990 Bathurst drive, against Tom Walkinshaw's wishes, for Grice was a sort of payback for Grice helping get Percy the '88 ETCC gig)
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I can only second your comment, ka - great info, racer69. Although the Bathurst and AMRY annuals has great details about the seasons, all the weekly news and rumours probably never made it beyond Australia.

Regarding the 1987 Small/Grice/Nissan WTCC plans, Grice - and presumably Small - had raced one of the New Zealand Skyline DR30s on a one-off chance at the 1986/1987 South Pacific Touring Car Championship with either Kent Baigent or Graeme Bowkett, winning the race. Their plans was, as I know it, to enter the new HR31 for the '87 WTCC, but that car was badly delayed, homologated by March but seing it's race debut at the Fuji Intertec 500 late in the year.

Interesting that the Bowkett name appears with Grice and Small, as it has just been mentioned that Bowkett was the customer for the first complete Group A Commodore VK build by Roadways!

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I can only second your comment, ka - great info, racer69. Although the Bathurst and AMRY annuals has great details about the seasons, all the weekly news and rumours probably never made it beyond Australia.

Regarding the 1987 Small/Grice/Nissan WTCC plans, Grice - and presumably Small - had raced one of the New Zealand Skyline DR30s on a one-off chance at the 1986/1987 South Pacific Touring Car Championship with either Kent Baigent or Graeme Bowkett, winning the race. Their plans was, as I know it, to enter the new HR31 for the '87 WTCC, but that car was badly delayed, homologated by March but seing it's race debut at the Fuji Intertec 500 late in the year.

Interesting that the Bowkett name appears with Grice and Small, as it has just been mentioned that Bowkett was the customer for the first complete Group A Commodore VK build by Roadways!

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And that Mr Bowkett, along with Mr Baigent, took 2 of the seats in the Mobil HDT Spa 24hr car in 1986

Was it really a quarter of a century ago? It was just like yesterday!

I recall reading that at one point Mr Small had set up camp in NZ to understand the intricacies of the DR30 Skyline, in order to run one for Mr Grice in Europe... subject to funding.. which never seemed to come..
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