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Old 6 May 2021, 22:48 (Ref:4050123)   #16
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silver bullet should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridsilver bullet should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridsilver bullet should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I really don't know why people make such a big deal over the fact we have multiple classes and two championships. I t has always been the case.
In fact if you go back to the late 80's & early 90's there were umpteen championships.
RAC British Championship
BRDA Northern Regional Championship
BRDA Southern Regional Championship
BTRDA Clubmans Championship
Croft Challenge
and probably a couple more
Some meetings were rounds of multiple championships, and some just single ones.

As for classes.....
Formula A
Formula B
Formula C
Colway Tyres A
Colway Tryes B
Nova Challenge

Move into the mid 90's and we got
Showroom
Supercar
Modified
Modified 1600
Showroom 1400
Colway Tyres
Colway Tyres 1600
Production Rallycross
Minicross



Ignore the sub classes for now and lets just concentrate on the races, and on Saturday you will see an 80+ car entry over 6 catagories, with average 8 car grids for the heats and 10 car grids for the finals.
Even in the sports heyday that would still have been classed as a good meeting.

And so what if there are quite a few sub classes, the drivers pay a lot of money to race at an event.
So what if more of them go away with something shiny for the mantlepiece, and to smile at when they get home. Back in the day entry fees were a lot less and there was prize money.

This year fingers crossed there will be nine rallycross meetings in the UK I would expect to see entries averaging between 70 & 80 cars.
In the current climate that is not to be sniffed at.
Looking back is fine but lets not do it through rose tinted glasses, things were not always hunky dory even in the glory years.
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hoffman66 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridhoffman66 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I will always be of the belief that having one very strong series is better than two at half strength, those with vested interest will always say grids are big etc etc, but that is nonsense, that only really means the events can go ahead, it doesn't mean they are any good, when I have watched BTRDA, it is always empty, races are often spread out, this can happen in any series, but it leaves me cold I am afraid. It is for drivers ONLY really, and that's fine I guess but that is not really what rallycross was and should be about.

When you have two series competing for entries, it is never a good thing, sadly as you can see here, those involved are quite happy, and the only people that suffer are fans and to some extent drivers as they play in a very small pond. And often are happy to stay at a very low level winning than pushing on.

I long for a series where we race everywhere, Ireland, Blyton, Lydden, Belgian and Holland, Silverstone, Croft, all together, big grids, stable classes not 15 for everyone, it's just more sensible all round.

Sadly you are preaching to those that have no common sense and have a vested interest, it is like this in most motorsport, look at hisotrics for instance
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Well tbf motorsport is first and foremost about the drivers and that should always be the consideration.
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Well tbf motorsport is first and foremost about the drivers and that should always be the consideration.
Certainly at club level this is the case.

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I will always be of the belief that having one very strong series is better than two at half strength, those with vested interest will always say grids are big etc etc, but that is nonsense, that only really means the events can go ahead, it doesn't mean they are any good, when I have watched BTRDA, it is always empty, races are often spread out, this can happen in any series, but it leaves me cold I am afraid.
Realistically there are too many cars/drivers for a combined meeting. Cars can be built that fit into both championships so drivers have flexibility to pick and choose if they want to. As long as both championships have healthy entries I fail to see a problem.

It has to be said that I enjoyed the BTRDA meeting at Lydden last year and the winter meetings too - the racing was good across the board and ultimately that's what I go to watch. If it's not working for you that's fair enough (I find watching bikes does nothing for me - so I don't do it).

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When you have two series competing for entries, it is never a good thing, sadly as you can see here, those involved are quite happy, and the only people that suffer are fans and to some extent drivers as they play in a very small pond. And often are happy to stay at a very low level winning than pushing on.
If you've got 2 series competing for drivers then surely that encourages the series to provide what the drivers want? That should be good for the sport as it keeps drivers happy and is more likely to bring in new drivers.

As for "happy to stay at a very low level winning than pushing on" - these drivers are competing for fun (often on very tight budgets). Where are they supposed to be 'pushing on' to? It's not like they're going to be making a career out of rallycross. I think your expectations may be a bit high here - it's a clubmans sport for all but a very few.
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