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Old 26 Nov 2017, 20:42 (Ref:3783277)   #931
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They should have put more downforce on the back of Vandoorne’s car!
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Old 21 Dec 2017, 22:10 (Ref:3788610)   #932
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I'm guessing the prices being so low is because of the Christmas sales yeah?
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Old 22 Dec 2017, 00:50 (Ref:3788627)   #933
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Apparently McLaren, won't have a title sponsor next season.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/133602
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Old 22 Dec 2017, 10:07 (Ref:3788681)   #934
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I'll try again.

I fear Mr. Brown is long on promises and reassurances, but very short on delivery!

Be interesting to see what the contributions from the "partners" looks like against what would be required from a headline sponsor plus supporting sponsors.
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Hopefully they'll still have enough to survive without a title sponsor as they have done already
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 09:41 (Ref:3788965)   #936
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I'll try again.

I fear Mr. Brown is long on promises and reassurances, but very short on delivery!

Be interesting to see what the contributions from the "partners" looks like against what would be required from a headline sponsor plus supporting sponsors.
The real problem for the last 3 seasons is that the cars have been performing poorly on track. No amount of first class travel, trackside champagne rooms or bouncy castles offered hope that the performance was on the improve.

Everyone has a boss, if the sponsor sees the promised benefit of association not showing up as planned, it is a difficult conversation to have with the marketers, with the CEO, with the board each week after another crap performance.

To keep alive the proof of concept, if not the choice of partner, it can explain why sponsors may jump to another operation if the offer as a whole is better..
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Old 25 Dec 2017, 13:35 (Ref:3789110)   #937
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What do we make of Zak Brown's assertion that title sponsors no longer fit the F1 business model? Acceptance of a new reality, or special pleading?
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What do we make of Zak Brown's assertion that title sponsors no longer fit the F1 business model?
An excuse for awful performance off track?
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Old 25 Dec 2017, 14:37 (Ref:3789118)   #939
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What do we make of Zak Brown's assertion that title sponsors no longer fit the F1 business model?
Tell that to Red Bull, Petronas Mercedes, Martini Williams and even Alfa Romeo Sauber.
Zak Brown seems to have caught a dose of Ronspeak.
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Tell that to Red Bull, Petronas Mercedes, Martini Williams and even Alfa Romeo Sauber.
Zak Brown seems to have caught a dose of Ronspeak.
To be fair, Red Bull aren't quite a title sponsor, in that they own the team (and Toro Rosso).
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To be fair, Red Bull aren't quite a title sponsor, in that they own the team (and Toro Rosso).
Sounds remarkably similar to McLaren, who (/their shareholders) own their team and who in the main are currently are funding said team themselves, as with Red Bull with minor secondary sponsors.
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Old 25 Dec 2017, 16:11 (Ref:3789125)   #942
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Old 25 Dec 2017, 17:21 (Ref:3789129)   #943
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Sounds remarkably similar to McLaren, who (/their shareholders) own their team and who in the main are currently are funding said team themselves, as with Red Bull with minor secondary sponsors.
Actually Red Bullís commercial income covers around 98% of their budget.
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McLaren are owned by Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company, which in turn is wholly owned by the Kingdom of Bahrain and TAG Group (Holdings) S.A..

In June this year, Ron Dennis sold his 25% shareholding in the McLaren Technology Group, to the other shareholders, as well his shares in McLaren Automotive.
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