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Old 18 May 2010, 11:53 (Ref:2693241)   #26
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Just finished watching the ERC video and have to say very nice driving from Doran. Is a bit assertive, but that's what makes it good! I think the reason why people perhaps don't like him is his appareance, not his actual driving...

Also, that Clio sounds a bit like the Joranli Vectra and Iversen RS200, don't you think? Very notable turbo whine...

Great driving from the french! Liked the Theuil Golf making a great start and closing the door for Hunsbedt, surprise!

Like the comment of Isachsen: is a Lydden is a circuit for drivers with big balls...
That Golf was a real surprise off the line, shame he couldn't hang on. From what I could see it looked like a MK4 as well, so not a bang up to date car. Nice to see something a little different on the grid, good that Bardy's out in Evans Astra although he didn't get as much out of it at last years Superprix as Evans has in the past. Again though, nice to see some different machinery.
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Old 18 May 2010, 11:54 (Ref:2693242)   #27
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I thought that too - the only ERC car there (aside for a very small Holte) is a big crash, which I'm sure Hansen doesn't want to be reminded of. I guess they are pitching it as "us against them", which I can understand, but would still have preferred some better pic (even the Youtube video, which is great to see it advertised, is of the British round...)

Yeah, would have thought Bossard is a favourite, hopefully some more French will come over, it's hardly very far!
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Old 18 May 2010, 17:24 (Ref:2693440)   #28
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Coox (never competed an foreign ERC since he got the right tool)
He did Germany last year and that nearly cost him the Belgian Championship, remember?
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Old 18 May 2010, 18:24 (Ref:2693471)   #29
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I talked to Marc last night and he said he had family commitments however would still think about coming as he needed some more Cheese from me !!
Thanks Mark, his team were very helpful in suggesting which french rounds offered good spectating. Got the impression he had been a spectator at Lydden last year, so it would be great to see him take to the track. But I suppose with Faleyras the week before and Chateauraux the week after, might be too much to hope for.

Stephen Bossard is a big plus.
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Old 18 May 2010, 18:48 (Ref:2693492)   #30
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Yes! But what happened to Evans? Too bad we don't get too see both Astra's in action... Speaking of Astra's: where the h*** is Sachweh?

Somehow I have the feeling I do miss a lot of names this year:
Sachweh (still building a new style Astra H or I?) Don't know
Evans (don't know)Don't know
Eklund (we know he was going to miss the 1st 2 and too bad there aren't, 2 Saabs There are 3 saab's! old 9.3 and two of the latest versions. problem is money and that he will help thomas heikinnen. who won the first finnish round! both are on the entrylist rallycrossnorden! and will for sure start in swedish and finnish ERC. rest i don't know.
Tracey (cracking car since Eklund modded it)
Coox (never competed an foreign ERC since he got the right tool)prefer belgian and dutch championship. will drive belgian erc!
Pinomaki (too bad he didn't returned otherwise)No Money but try to start in swedish and finnish erc
Lindefjell (he is on the list, but not seen him so far) has drive in Ceska Lipa for test run (2nd place) pictures on several web sites. wanted some testruns with new car before competing in ERC
Holte (C30 ready but no money)Money and prefer rallycross norden for testing erc 2011. will compete in some erc events in 2010
Pauwels (did some testing, also with Duval, but missing so far)will be in lydden (see his website) but the question is we will drive the car.
Anne (too bad, would like to see more French drivers and cars) rented his car to janin in french series. there is some change he will compete in 3 erc rounds this year with a rented car.
Wild (strange car, but entertaining to watch)

It is even more to bad that there are more capable drivers and cars out there that could compete in some of the rounds, just imagine all the Tracey cars...

I see Ayrat Shaymiev has entered a Peugeot 207 is that JLP's? Does that also mean his old Focus is the one of MDK? While rumors where that was Norkus old car (but he still has his)?
I tought the MDK car is old jernberg/norkus and completly rebuild en update. Norkus has switch to the old jernberg/shaymiev focus.after a sabbatical year.
Shaymiev's peugeot i don't know but i tought his brother was building a 207 last year to compete so maybe this is that car.
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Old 18 May 2010, 21:17 (Ref:2693572)   #31
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One little moan, why is the main picture on the event poster an old british championship pic including a 6R4? Surely something a little more upto date and relevent could & should have been used.
Yes could have been more ERC... Best would be a full on action pic of Liam I think (altough this could have been to short before race to make the poster).
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Old 18 May 2010, 21:22 (Ref:2693574)   #32
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That Golf was a real surprise off the line, shame he couldn't hang on. From what I could see it looked like a MK4 as well, so not a bang up to date car. Nice to see something a little different on the grid, good that Bardy's out in Evans Astra although he didn't get as much out of it at last years Superprix as Evans has in the past. Again though, nice to see some different machinery.
Yes, but the driver and this Golf was the French Champion not long ago... And for the MK4, well that is just a shell and in Rallycross that hardly makes a difference. The shell that is, not the driveline and what is under the bonnet, etc, etc. iow: if Jernberg would be asked to switch to Seat, VW or Audi he could make it with same tech as the Skoda, even it would be an oldskool model...

The best proof of this are the good results of two different Xsara's, one of Jeanny in the last round and Smerud last year in Sweden...
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Old 18 May 2010, 21:30 (Ref:2693581)   #33
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He did Germany last year and that nearly cost him the Belgian Championship, remember?
Yes, but who cares about that? He already won that before! I hope he is not turning out like Volland: driving in a car too good for the championship for too long. The only need for a car this good is to beat Kuypers, but if it was my call I would choose selected rounds in the ERC over the Belgian and Dutch championships any time... But ofcourse it's his call and money! At least with the Golf he came to the French round of the ERC, not so far away from his home (and one of the best rounds).
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Old 18 May 2010, 21:35 (Ref:2693582)   #34
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Lindefjell (he is on the list, but not seen him so far) has drive in Ceska Lipa for test run (2nd place) pictures on several web sites. wanted some testruns with new car before competing in ERC
Holte (C30 ready but no money)Money and prefer rallycross norden for testing erc 2011. will compete in some erc events in 2010

I tought the MDK car is old jernberg/norkus and completly rebuild en update. Norkus has switch to the old jernberg/shaymiev focus.after a sabbatical year.
Yes, I have seen the new Skoda, looks good to be honest (but can it really be better than the Gunnarson / Trollspeed tech of his old one?)

Really, really too bad to miss Holte (altough I think the C30 is an ugly car), but now 2 Volvo's down on last year...

Thanks for clearing up the MDK story!
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Old 18 May 2010, 21:36 (Ref:2693584)   #35
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Sorry to cover an old topic, but whats the situation with "old" cars being used in ERC. I recall something about use up to 4 years after homologation?
Is this question about the Pug 306? If so, by using the Group A homologation numbers A5510 or A5576 the 306 is eligible for the ERC till December 31 2010, – if it follows the FIA technical rules for D1 cars.
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Old 18 May 2010, 22:53 (Ref:2693638)   #36
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So if the pug 306 is still homolageted lets hope we see Andy Scott out there aswell!
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Old 19 May 2010, 01:05 (Ref:2693699)   #37
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So if the pug 306 is still homolageted lets hope we see Andy Scott out there aswell!
Its not legal for ERC as its spaceframed if I remember correctly.
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Old 19 May 2010, 06:22 (Ref:2693776)   #38
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the pug doesnt have original floors in
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Old 19 May 2010, 09:03 (Ref:2693877)   #39
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Aye, always has been, thats why it's still so quick!!
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Old 19 May 2010, 09:19 (Ref:2693886)   #40
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Any chance of Ollie O'Donovan blagging a car for this one do you think? Any other British drivers going to take the plunge?
It really would be good to see Ollie back in a proper car, also would be good to see Bellerby having ago, I know the Puma isnt the most competitive car but he would sure get the most out of it.
With no BTCC round that week wouldnt it be great if a car could be found for Andrew Jordan, maybe a Paillier Peugeot,I know last year he was keen to have a go.
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Old 19 May 2010, 09:21 (Ref:2693889)   #41
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Is this question about the Pug 306? If so, by using the Group A homologation numbers A5510 or A5576 the 306 is eligible for the ERC till December 31 2010, – if it follows the FIA technical rules for D1 cars.
I wasn't specificallly thinking of the 306, but I remember reading a conversation about the rules on here a little while ago and wondered which cars from the British Championship were a definate no-go.

Ta for the answers!
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Old 19 May 2010, 09:34 (Ref:2693901)   #42
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The 306 doesnt fit ERC Regs!!
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Old 19 May 2010, 11:45 (Ref:2693963)   #43
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Andy Jordan could use Grant's focus, as Andy Grant hasn't entered himself yet! And def agree that would be great to see Oliie out in something and Bellerby in the Puma again. the more the merrier and the way that the ERC is run, the slower cars run against similarly paced cars, so it's still great racing for the fans and must be better for the drivers to be competing in such heats.
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Old 19 May 2010, 15:46 (Ref:2694118)   #44
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That Puma ain't that slow particularly in Bellerby's hands, granted it's not on the same pace as the top ERC boys but it's a quick car. It would be great to see Jordan back, not sure what he'll drive though. One of Pallier's Pugs would be the most likely option I would have thought or even one of the Tracey cars. I would expect Grant to be entering himself in the Focus.
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Old 19 May 2010, 15:56 (Ref:2694121)   #45
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Yes, but who cares about that? He already won that before! I hope he is not turning out like Volland: driving in a car too good for the championship for too long. The only need for a car this good is to beat Kuypers, but if it was my call I would choose selected rounds in the ERC over the Belgian and Dutch championships any time... But ofcourse it's his call and money! At least with the Golf he came to the French round of the ERC, not so far away from his home (and one of the best rounds).
The point is that Jochen himself and his sponsors prefer to get both titles. With the Golf he had no chances at it. And it's always a money issue.
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So no one fascinated by Tony Bardy, in the evans Astra?
Would rather see Bardy in any Division 1 car I still maintain that If Tony ever committed to a full BRC season he would be Champion driving skills are second to none and car preparation is just the dogs wotsits!.Couldnt ask for a better advert for Bardy motorsport if he ever did a full season! Am I disapointed Evans not doing it er No...

One driver i would like to see at this years European round much more than Jordan is Andy Grant he could put in a good showing cmon Andy



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Old 19 May 2010, 21:47 (Ref:2694380)   #47
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i thought they bought the pair of astras ,1 for bardy 1 for evans
as for bardys work yes is very good but i did here the price is as well ,very well
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Haha, they did buy two cars yes, I thinkmonly three were built, 2 for Schanche and 1 for Joranli.

Sachweh has one, Evans and Bardy the others

In fairness to prices, those cars are very specialised, using DTM parts that must be impossible to get hold of now! As the 306 was, using 205T16 bits for some areas.
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Swifts to support ERC event with own class

After a recent convo with Mr Bellerby and looking at the Proctors Motorsport website it looks likely that the Suzuki Swifts will be the support class at this years ERC event at Lydden.

The RX150's were there last year and im sure the Swifts will put on some entertaining racing.

Good news!
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VoilĂ*! The green marked ones are new in the list.

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...-9-11-2009.pdf

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