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Old 19 Sep 2019, 03:06 (Ref:3928779)   #601
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probably the most important paragraph right there. I'm no expert, but I guess no money and no engineer might be a barrier to a successful campaign.


If it were another team saying this Id give them a bit of credit but were talking about TKR here. Nothing has appeared to convince me theyre still not the TKR of old.

Im sure if I was Kiwi sponsor wanting a Kiwi branded wildcard Im sure I could do it well dealing directly with a team and cutting out TKR.
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Old 19 Sep 2019, 12:18 (Ref:3928869)   #602
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Was going to say the same thing !

Just a couple of minor details to iron out:

"only the final budget and engineer that understands the ex 888 race machine is needed to get TKR over the line."



We're all on the cusp of a Bathurst wildcard apparently !
Absolutely. It's only those two things that are stopping me entering as well...
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Old 19 Sep 2019, 12:41 (Ref:3928874)   #603
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Absolutely. It's only those two things that are stopping me entering as well...


You me and a host of others too I suspect.
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Old 20 Sep 2019, 08:01 (Ref:3929033)   #604
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The silence would make it safe to assume that it is not going ahead?
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Old 20 Sep 2019, 08:45 (Ref:3929039)   #605
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The silence would make it safe to assume that it is not going ahead?
Its not Bathurst week... yet...
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Old 20 Sep 2019, 09:02 (Ref:3929041)   #606
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Their response to said question on FB was "still working on it". I'll believe it when they actually show up and start the race
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Old 25 Sep 2019, 08:11 (Ref:3930029)   #607
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This image seems fitting:


On the plus side, Team Kiwi Racing has an illustrious list of driving talent including Jason Richards, Craig Baird, Paul Radisich, Shane van Gisbergen and Andre Heimgartner (Carrera Cup). Quite the achievement!

May the famous #021 one day grace the Supercars series again.

One wonders if Mr. John has been editing his own Wikipedia page...
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Despite Mr John explaining to ANZ bank that despite (sic) ample assets to cover the loan, that the race season had started and that he need the bank to work with him and wait till years end (7 months)as all assets he could sell off to repay the loan were required for the race team to operate such as cars, engines, trucks, transporters, V8 Supercar Franchise, merchandise etc. which were all worth well over A$3,000,000, the ANZ bank refused to wait and proceed with bankruptcy proceedings against Mr John personally. Ironically Mr John's bankruptcy was annulled with-in weeks of the bankruptcy with not one person left out of pocket or no annulment would have been provided.

Despite keeping V8 Supercars up dated on all of the above, V8 Supercars seized TKR's Racing Entitlement Contract after the Hamilton round of the Championship in order that it would be sold and or leased.
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Who can forget the well-known sponsor "Never Give Up! Follow Your Dreams"...

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This image seems fitting:


On the plus side, Team Kiwi Racing has an illustrious list of driving talent including Jason Richards, Craig Baird, Paul Radisich, Shane van Gisbergen and Andre Heimgartner (Carrera Cup). Quite the achievement!

May the famous #021 one day grace the Supercars series again.

One wonders if Mr. John has been editing his own Wikipedia page...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Kiwi_Racing

Who can forget the well-known sponsor "Never Give Up! Follow Your Dreams"...
Dear lord, that wiki page is nauseating.
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Maybe it WAS real
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Old 29 Sep 2019, 08:40 (Ref:3930715)   #610
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Dear lord, that wiki page is nauseating.
Reads more like a propaganda piece rather than a historical factual recount of the TKR story.
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Maybe it WAS real
There is no question at least in my mind that David John's failed attempt was real. Paying a deposit on hard to get accomodation is also something you have to do very early in the piece, but DJ also knew that he would be able to bale out of things like accomodation without taking a hit, because of its scarcity, so no big risk there. I don't doubt that DJ also paid deposit's on other logistical necessities either, the car shown was also wrapped in black so either that was paid for, or a typical DJ contra deal was done.

Certainly I believe DJ had every intention of fulfilling his dream of resurrecting TKR, by going back to Bathurst with the brand, just as long as he was successful at pulling on the heart strings and wallet's of proud kiwi's once again.

That he failed is no surprise to many people, as his bid was always on the back off using other peoples money to rise again like the preverbal Phoenix from the cold ashes of his many fires.

To raise around $200K is a big ask, but not impossible if you bait the hook with some juicy morsels, like top performing ex-pat Kiwi drivers, an ex Triple Eight car, and of course the lure of the famous Mountain. It could have worked, but it needed a lot of real "seed money" up front to have any real chance, and that's were it failed, at least in my opinion.
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Old 1 Oct 2019, 01:09 (Ref:3931207)   #612
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Thanks for the input Mark and the view from a NZ perspective. Donning my sceptic's hat, if the accommodation was paid for with sponsor's money I wonder if it will be returned to the sponsor when it is received? Things like that have made motor sport a sponsors worst nightmare.
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Old 10 Oct 2019, 10:15 (Ref:3933078)   #615
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There is no question at least in my mind that David John's failed attempt was real......
Hi Mark,

Do you think it may have worked if someone with a bit more credibility (and not a history of burning investors) was behind this?
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