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Old 19 Aug 2001, 11:12 (Ref:132388)   #16
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I've heard lots of things about the first round of the 1994 AMC at Eastern Creek, i seem to remember (i was pretty groggy watching it, weren't they on at 6:30am saterdays) The two Factory BMW 318i's battling with the old M3 of Blanchard and Phil Ward's Merc, and Alan Jones talking about it at Symmons Plains, was it like the 1982 San Marino Grand Prix, staged?

What actually happened.
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Old 19 Aug 2001, 12:36 (Ref:132413)   #17
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RE: EC- I think you'll find that 95% of the field led the race at one stage or another. I'm sure some people were impressed by it....

RE: Morris- you could have bolted the pantech onto the back of the BMW and it wouldn't have made a difference...until he got around to the bridge
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Old 20 Aug 2001, 06:55 (Ref:132890)   #18
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Have to say it sounds like a prett dumb thing to do, especially in the first race for a new series, and if i remember correctly it had quite a big build up.

On Morris, he probably could have raced the pantech and still won that day
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Old 20 Aug 2001, 11:42 (Ref:132985)   #19
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If you want to know how staged the races were, just look at the races towards the end of 1994 when Morris and Longhurst decided to fight (literally in the end).
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Just saw it advertised for $229.95 in MotorSport Video catalogue! Obviously a misprint, but the ad also refers to the Holden vs Ford barttle in the Futue Tourers...

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And now available on DVD.

http://cmsmotorsport.com.au/shop/pro...mplate-copy-5/

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I've heard lots of things about the first round of the 1994 AMC at Eastern Creek, i seem to remember (i was pretty groggy watching it, weren't they on at 6:30am saterdays) The two Factory BMW 318i's battling with the old M3 of Blanchard and Phil Ward's Merc, and Alan Jones talking about it at Symmons Plains, was it like the 1982 San Marino Grand Prix, staged?

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The first few rounds were staged.Insults to the intelligence of the audience.That ended when Greg Murphy joined the series and refused to participate in the farce.After that the racing started.
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The first few rounds were staged.Insults to the intelligence of the audience.That ended when Greg Murphy joined the series and refused to participate in the farce.After that the racing started.
Wasn't it only the Eastern Creek round? They did get a little more serious after that. And by Winton, a little too serious.

And Supercars would never stage a race
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Wasn't it only the Eastern Creek round? They did get a little more serious after that. And by Winton, a little too serious.

And Supercars would never stage a race
From memory the second round (at Phillip Island?)was just as bad.I think Murph came along after that.Winton was near the end of the series.
Supercars uses safety cars rather than collusion by competitors to determine results of races.
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Supercars uses safety cars rather than collusion by competitors to determine results of races.
Sometimes, but check out these races from 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_pSxBr5ug

The seasoned viewer knows what is going on but does the crowd or casual TV viewers know?
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Sometimes, but check out these races from 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_pSxBr5ug

The seasoned viewer knows what is going on but does the crowd or casual TV viewers know?
The seasoned viewer would be aware that's an exhibition run, rather than a race for championship points?
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The seasoned viewer would be aware that's an exhibition run, rather than a race for championship points?
Utterly comical. Farcical accusation.
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