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Old 11 Apr 2011, 07:57 (Ref:2861716)   #26
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Put him in a Red Bull or McLaren and he would win race after race.
Neither Hamilton, Button nor Webber are winning race after race in those cars, and I'd rate all three as better than the Schumacher of today.
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Neither Hamilton, Button nor Webber are winning race after race in those cars, and I'd rate all three as better than the Schumacher of today.
But is there a motivation there for Mr Schumacher, that if he were in a car patently better than his Mercedes, that he might pull his own finger out and get cracking?

Mr Rosberg isnt doing too good in Mr Brawn's latest efforts...
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Old 11 Apr 2011, 11:27 (Ref:2861829)   #28
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Neither Hamilton, Button nor Webber are winning race after race in those cars, and I'd rate all three as better than the Schumacher of today.
i just posted somthing similar to that in the rosberg v schum thread I think schumacher would be about the same level as Webber , but Vettel and Hamilton are better drivers at this point in time
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If you guys are all so sure that Schumacher won't win this year go and put your money on it .... let us know how much you are prepared to bet on your absolute truth and the odds you get!
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What I hve seen is the team and car are not bing developed as the ferraris were at his tenure there. The car es a suit tailored to the man, now it seems an off the rack oufit cut and trimmed for two people. He might win, but the teamworks behind the scene dontsem to be as together as anything he had before, and maclaren, ferrari, red bull, even renault, all seem to have quicker chassis, never mind the customer Mercedes seems to have more oompf strangely.
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Old 11 Apr 2011, 15:04 (Ref:2861943)   #31
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I don't think he'll win a race this year, and I would be surprised to even see him on the podium. It could happen in an unusual race where there are lots of retirements, but even then TGF isn't exactly first in line to inherit a podium place if a couple of the usual suspects drop out. He'll need a massive slice of luck.
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Old 11 Apr 2011, 17:25 (Ref:2862012)   #32
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Old 11 Apr 2011, 18:33 (Ref:2862045)   #33
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Its not by ability he will not get a podium or win but by equipment. You lot have this thing in your head because of his age he is past it. He is matching and beating Nico so far this season, if the Merc was a half decent car he would be figting it out at the front.
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Old 11 Apr 2011, 19:48 (Ref:2862086)   #34
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If you guys are all so sure that Schumacher won't win this year go and put your money on it .... let us know how much you are prepared to bet on your absolute truth and the odds you get!
If someone offered me good odds on it, I would. I fear I would only find 1:3 or something though.

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Its not by ability he will not get a podium or win but by equipment. You lot have this thing in your head because of his age he is past it. He is matching and beating Nico so far this season, if the Merc was a half decent car he would be figting it out at the front.
I don't think it's because of his age.
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If you guys are all so sure that Schumacher won't win this year go and put your money on it .... let us know how much you are prepared to bet on your absolute truth and the odds you get!
How much have you got on him to win, wnut?
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Old 11 Apr 2011, 21:51 (Ref:2862142)   #36
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I would bet a bit on him winning if it was something like 50 or 60-1 or over.
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He is matching and beating Nico so far this season, if the Merc was a half decent car he would be figting it out at the front.
You can't really judge whether he's "matching and beating" Rosberg after two races, one of which they both failed to finish. So far he's been outqualified by him twice and then finished ahead of him in the one race where they've both made it to the end. Not the most compelling evidence of a return to form.
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Old 12 Apr 2011, 15:02 (Ref:2862442)   #38
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Surpisingly really cannot see it happening , unless Brawn drops on some mod that suddenly gives them a big car advantage and that does not seem likely either.
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I think he has a chance of winning in Italy. The Mercedes is a very quick car when it comes to fast circuits and straight line speed and if the car's currrent gremlins are solved before the fast GP's, he might be in with a chance of winning or scoring a podium position.
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Old 12 Apr 2011, 20:52 (Ref:2862612)   #40
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We'll come back to that prediction after the Italian GP.
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Old 13 Apr 2011, 09:01 (Ref:2862789)   #41
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Well would you tip Petrov to win a race this season? What about Heidfeld? They've already got they're podiums, and surely are looking more likely to get a win right now then Schumacher.

My tip is Kobayashi to podium before TGF.
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How much have you got on him to win, wnut?
Not much, but then the certainty of some of our friends here that he won't win would seem to make anything above bank interest rates a done deal!

I agree with RF_Racer above here.
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If you guys are all so sure that Schumacher won't win this year go and put your money on it .... let us know how much you are prepared to bet on your absolute truth and the odds you get!
Are any bookmakers giving odds on Shumi winning a GP?
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What about odds on him getting into Q3 or being consistently faster than his team mate? Both look unlikely at present. If he's to win a race I would imagine he'd have to achieve both of the above.
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What about odds on him getting into Q3 or being consistently faster than his team mate? Both look unlikely at present. If he's to win a race I would imagine he'd have to achieve both of the above.
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What about odds on him getting into Q3 or being consistently faster than his team mate? Both look unlikely at present. If he's to win a race I would imagine he'd have to achieve both of the above.
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A more realistic question would be, "Will Schumacher make it to Q3 this year?"
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William Hill are giving Shumi odds of 200/1 to win the Chinese GP with an each way bet at 1/5 1-3. They are also giving him odds of 200/1 to win the WDC with an each way bet at 1/3 1-2.
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I'm more hopeful after today's performance (from Rosberg too) than I was last week.
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I'm more hopeful after today's performance (from Rosberg too) than I was last week.
It will be interesting to see if William Hill's odds have changed.
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