FIA GT World Championship 2012 - Page 86

lucky snake · 18 Dec 2012, 02:39 (Ref:3179678)

after munnich motorsport, the new fia gt loses also another important team like hexis... so what could be worse than 2012 fia gt1 season?... maybe the 2013 one.
There is still some hope that hexis will run in BES with just one pro car.

The pair of V8 racing c6r are just old GT1 cars with shorter restrictors and without diffuser, are not GTE cars because gt-oepn allowed to run with a special homologation like the vantage V12 SGT.

urdragon · 18 Dec 2012, 11:21 (Ref:3179758)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

http://www.motorsport.com/endurance/news/af-corse-s-amato-ferrari-reveals-busy-2013-program/
AF Corse confirms that they will not participate in the Blancpain Sprint Series

Predictable, they run in GT1 in 2012 due to the pay drivers, money and resources of the GT3 2011 world champions, they have been never interested on that champ and they were paid off with their BoP last year...

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Originally Posted by tux1234

Also to add that Hexis wont race in the GT Sprint series, they will race in French GT instead due to financial restrictions.

Well im not quite sure of that, where is the Parente/Mako/duseldorp team going to run apart from Blancpain? (Okay Mako does WEC with 458) this article points towards ELMS where the program neither drivers haven't been anounced.

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-14875.html

This article talks about an international program on the last line:

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-14875.html

ELMS does not represent an international program (At short term, neither long for GT3 cars by now), so i would be cautious if we don't have additional info than EI.

Tim the Grey · 18 Dec 2012, 11:35 (Ref:3179763)

Looks like Hexis won't be racing in the sprints, either...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104854

urdragon · 18 Dec 2012, 11:45 (Ref:3179766)

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Originally Posted by Tim the Grey

Looks like Hexis won't be racing in the sprints, either...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104854

Thanks.

But I wonder then why they are planning a WEC program?, i'm sure sponsorships costs compensate better on wec i suppose.

This is clearly the demise of Ratels champ, it is possible even this year the GTOpen has better quality grid than sprints (They had already better numbers), and the international tag doesn't give much with only one international rounds, if i were him, i would cancel the championship if he doesn't have minimum 13 teams or 25 cars, mostly of lower quality than 2012, cause simply the GTOpen will be better according to the quality of the teams and numbers.

GTKers · 18 Dec 2012, 11:46 (Ref:3179767)

Sprint series is going down and GT open is running up, we have to badge the GT Open with FIA logo and the game is done...
V8 are testing in USA the c6r GTE 2012 to employ at least one spec2012 in the gtopen along side the ex Gt1 corvettes and Gt3 Corvette.
News from the GT open awards is that also mercedes and maybe three teams with audis, and 2 new aston will enter the 2013 campaign!

MitchZ06 · 18 Dec 2012, 11:54 (Ref:3179770)

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Originally Posted by urdragon

Thanks.

But I wonder then why they are planning a WEC program?, i'm sure sponsorships costs compensate better on wec i suppose.

Not quite, they don't want to do short races internationally anymore to put it quite simply. And the WEC program is McLaren lead...

urdragon · 18 Dec 2012, 12:52 (Ref:3179785)

The fact is that Europe can't escape the crisis according to germany's growth, the fact that Ratel's Champ is Europe+ only dooms with a small long term growth of a championship that needs quite new air and new teams involvement.

In nowadays motorsport, this should be done with the aid of Nord American economy, to what Ratel is a completelly miss. A decent world championship should be done with the involvement of Europe and the USA, and only the WEC by now has this type of involvement, but there the GT presence is minor so we've finished into the most powerfull GT grid ever without a GT-only world championship unless Ratel and Hayek want to change Blancpain range for 2014.

Coach Ep · 18 Dec 2012, 17:03 (Ref:3179833)

Adac GT Masters limited grid of 28 cars for 2013 might be helpful for Ratel...

GTKers · 19 Dec 2012, 07:39 (Ref:3180003)

28+6 !

Speed-King · 10 Jan 2013, 13:58 (Ref:3187299)

Speedweek's Oliver Runschke via Twitter:

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Ratel announced at Autosport show 9 team for GT Sprint: Vita4One, WRT, Phoenix, Novadriver, Prospeed, Rodrive/Lambda, Heico, Reiter, Loeb

werner · 11 Jan 2013, 16:56 (Ref:3187799)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Adac GT Masters limited grid of 28 cars for 2013 might be helpful for Ratel...

Care to elaborate? Why would they do that?

Coach Ep · 11 Jan 2013, 21:44 (Ref:3187926)

According to DSC:

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A maximum of 28 slots are available for teams, with the teams also being offered an official test and media day before the season. Registration for the 2013 season has opened. ADAC Head of Motorsport Division Lars Soutschka explained why the decision to accept fewer teams was taken. "In order to put the ADAC GT Masters 2013 on a firmer footing, we have also decided to limit the number of drivers taking part," said Soutschka. "By reducing the number of grid positions available, we will strengthen the position of our teams, providing increased media presence for all participants and maximum exposure at the track."

Sorry for going OT...

rich07 · 20 Jan 2013, 09:28 (Ref:3191673)

So I came across the season review on youtube last night and watched it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BTE2sLws0A

and the full Donington race which Id seen before here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3HmWLI94G0

Just wondering what Michael Bartels said to the All Inkl team when he stormed into their garage at the 48:50 minute mark in the season review and 1:39:50 mark in the full race replay. Im sure it wasnt 'congratulations on the championship' or anything like that but just quite curious as to what he actually said.

Starfish Primer · 20 Jan 2013, 10:05 (Ref:3191685)

I was at Donington Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday after the qualifying race in the pitlane there was a bitter dispute in german between Vita4one and All-Inkl drivers. It was in German so I didn´t understood anything but what happened on sunday didn´t surprise me after seen that.

rich07 · 20 Jan 2013, 10:15 (Ref:3191687)

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Originally Posted by Starfish Primer

I was at Donington Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday after the qualifying race in the pitlane there was a bitter dispute in german between Vita4one and All-Inkl drivers. It was in German so I didn´t understood anything but what happened on sunday didn´t surprise me after seen that.

That is quite interesting, bit of an encore to what happened on Sunday.. Which drivers were involved?

And then Basseng claimed after the Sunday race that Yelmer Burmanns dad attacked Winkelhock at the medical centre. Not a happy weekend for both teams.

GregoryDG · 20 Jan 2013, 10:19 (Ref:3191688)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

That is quite interesting, bit of an encore to what happened on Sunday.. Which drivers were involved?

And then Basseng claimed after the Sunday race that Yelmer Burmanns dad attacked Winkelhock at the medical centre. Not a happy weekend for both teams.

I'm still thinking that's one of the reasons they left the championship...

ensign14 · 21 Jan 2013, 22:28 (Ref:3192450)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

And then Basseng claimed after the Sunday race that Yelmer Burmanns dad attacked Winkelhock at the medical centre.

Good place for it.

Starfish Primer · 21 Jan 2013, 23:01 (Ref:3192466)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

That is quite interesting, bit of an encore to what happened on Sunday.. Which drivers were involved?

And then Basseng claimed after the Sunday race that Yelmer Burmanns dad attacked Winkelhock at the medical centre. Not a happy weekend for both teams.

I didn´t recognize them, I don´t have enough knowledge

Robbe · 22 Jan 2013, 01:46 (Ref:3192518)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

Just wondering what Michael Bartels said to the All Inkl team when he stormed into their garage at the 48:50 minute mark in the season review and 1:39:50 mark in the full race replay. Im sure it wasnt 'congratulations on the championship' or anything like that but just quite curious as to what he actually said.

He said "you are no world champions" and "this is the most unfair thing I have ever seen".

rich07 · 22 Jan 2013, 07:20 (Ref:3192593)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensign14

Good place for it.

Yeah indeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starfish Primer

I didn´t recognize them, I don´t have enough knowledge

No worries. If I put some pics up would you be able to tell me who was involved?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbe

He said "you are no world champions" and "this is the most unfair thing I have ever seen".

Many thanks.

Gee you must have good hearing, I couldnt quite make out the first part of what he said due to the audio quality of the video. Thats before I thought about translating it

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